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12901  General Information / Trivia Games / Re:when were they invented? on: January 01, 2003, 09:05:40 AM
Ok, here's what I found out with a bit of surfing, Let me know how you arrived at some of the choices.

MACHINE GUN (AFOD) 1879 or 1885-This one doesn't fit any of your year choices, but there are ealier versions of what some define as machine guns going back to the 1700's, I'll have to go with either Hiram Maxin and his Maxim machine gun in 1885 (it looks similar to the one in AFOD but its not quite the right one) or the Gardiner machine gun in 1879.

TELEGRAPH (FAFDM; OUATITW)  Samuel F.B. Morse had at patent in 1840 and lines were strung in 1844 between Washington and Annapolis Jct. This is the version they used in the US but Europe had other versions notably Cooke and Wheatstone's "Five needle electric telegraph" patented in 1837.

GATLIN GUN (GBU) 1861 Dr. Richard Gatling (a dentist no less, lol).

DYNAMITE (AFOD; GBU) 1866 Alfred Nobel

12902  General Information / General Discussion / Re:Did Leone kill the western with kindness? on: January 01, 2003, 08:25:07 AM
Reflecting some more on Leone and westerns, watching some of the staple Hollwood oaters, I make this observation, Hollywwod directors had the back drop of the real "West" to work with but they tended to be to black and white, idealistic and preachy with their characters, its almost like some type of propaganda.

So the physical West in effect indellibly stamped credibility to the revised dime store novel versions of the real into what was the (pre Leone) American conciousness of what American's think of collectively as the "West".

Leone on the other hand had fastioned a fake west with more "shades of gray" realistic human acting characters with petty human falts that created an alternate revisionist version (actually a revision of the intitial revision,lol) that seems more alive, more in tune with what we know of as real, and hence gives us a version that is probably more in touch with what things were really like west of the Mississippi but with the amplification turned way up.
12903  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Happy Newyear! on: January 01, 2003, 07:52:59 AM
Same to All, Happy New Year!
12904  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Gangs of New York on: January 01, 2003, 07:51:06 AM
It was a great job by Scorsese of creating and dropping you into a plauseable different world that Leone was especially great in doing.

It has a love story that doesn't overpower the film, DiCaprio, as the "good" guy (I think Scorsese's choice of Di Caprio was one of catering to demographics, someone stronger and more Clint like would have been way better) is after revenge on ultra bad guy Bill the Butcher, Bill's weapon of choice is a meat cleaver along with assorted butcher knives that he carries in holsters around his waist, I don't want to give away or tell you any more.

It's a revalation now to remember that  for example "Billy the Kid" and some of the real "West's" other bad men drifted west from New York City slums and other points east.

I'll see this one again, it is a definite DVD buy for me. when it comes out .

Give me your thoughts when you see it, Happy New Year to All!
12905  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Gangs of New York on: December 30, 2002, 04:54:34 PM
Definitely check it out, and you'll see what I mean, Scorsese does a good job. Its not Clint, Lee, or Eli, but Daniel Day Lewis is a great villan, and the weapons of choice are butcher knives, hatches, and clubs, but it has Leones aura, you'll see.
12906  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:The trailer to GBU, big big big mistake (if i'm not wrong,) on: December 30, 2002, 04:36:09 PM
In Italian the sound bite sounds better "Il Buono, Il Bruto, Il Cattivo. "
12907  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Gangs of New York on: December 29, 2002, 07:07:45 PM
Just saw it a few hours ago, wow, a must see, an epic! The lavish amount of attention to detail reminded me a lot of Leone, think of it as Once Upon a Time in America 100 years earlier and combined with the Civil War.

As Tuco and Blondie were dealing with Angel Eyes this was going on in NYC what a piece of bloody history that was completely overshadowed by the Civil War. I was very impressed, I recommed it to Leone fans.
12908  General Information / Trivia Games / Re:Trivia Question on: December 27, 2002, 03:06:38 PM
Yes I forgot to check back on this but I was thinking of the Jill/Noodels shot through the lace, But I don't know what it means.

Also the corridas in FDM and FFOD, I forgot about them.
12909  General Information / General Discussion / Re:The Good The Bad The Ugly - Overrated? (sorry post is a bit long) on: December 27, 2002, 02:53:17 PM
For me its entertainment, in FFOD I smile, in FDM I'm grining, in GBU I'm laughing out loud,  Smiley Grin Cheesy
12910  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:Tuco can't take a joke on: December 27, 2002, 11:33:49 AM
100,000 would have bought a lot more than a pig farm, lol.
12911  General Information / Sergio Leone News / Re:Finally, Found Once Upon a Time in America on DVD!! on: December 27, 2002, 11:24:33 AM
Ok you take the bullet for the rest of us and let us know if its worth it. lol
12912  General Information / General Discussion / Re:Did Leone kill the western with kindness? on: December 27, 2002, 11:20:59 AM
Casius, I couldn't agree with you more, I watched what I could of both Rio Bravo, and McLintock on Christmas day, what jokes, one of them had the fistfight in the mud puddle cliche, which was also used in North to Alaska another Wayen vehicle, too much formulaic bs. I try and keep my Leone like fine wine, to be watched only occasionally, and under optimum conditions. It should be a requierment FOR NEWBIES to have to watch so many hours of crap and then see your first LEONE!, lol.
12913  Films of Sergio Leone / A Fistful of Dollars / Re:Final scene - thoughts! on: December 25, 2002, 11:19:07 AM
iron from the side of a mine ore car.
12914  Films of Sergio Leone / A Fistful of Dollars / Re:Does Joe have a love intrest in the girl on: December 25, 2002, 11:17:36 AM
Doesn't Joe say that Marisol and the boy reminds him of his past and there was nobody around to help?
12915  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re:Other Favorite Non Spaghetti Westerns on: December 23, 2002, 03:59:37 PM
jouissance, rent the Hombre DVD if you get a chance and tell me what you think, you may enjoy it!

Before Eastwood one of the coolest actors was Paul Newman.
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