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1  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw on: Yesterday at 07:19:40 AM
Black Panther (2018).   This lived BEYOND the hype its been getting.  Everything about the film is original and spectacular.   Heck, i would put it in a early running for best picture of the year... A masterpiece, 10 out of 10...

Black Panther (2018) - 2/10. Insufferable. Worst superhero film ever? Certainly a contender (even the Stan Lee cameo is the worst ever).

Wow- so aside from some intentional baiting by DJ which no doubt knocked his rating down a couple of notches, you guys are at opposite extremes here...

Hmmm....
2  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw on: February 19, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
He's been on my to watch list for some time, thanks for the reminder Wink

He hasn't directed that much - more known as an actor of course.

The four I've seen that he directed ("Toi, le venin", "Les salauds vont en enfer", "Le goût de la violence" and of course "Cemetery without Crosses") are all really great. As a director, he was and still is ridiculously underrated.
3  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: The Great Silence aka Il grande silenzio (1968) on: February 14, 2018, 01:22:49 PM
Even the blu-ray won't have audio options? Surely an English territory blu-ray will be able to secure the rights to English audio? The English dubbing on TGS is actually pretty good and we get to hear Frank Wolff's and Vonetta McGee's (I think?) own voices too.
4  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: The Great Silence aka Il grande silenzio (1968) on: February 14, 2018, 09:48:50 AM
Good news indeed!
5  Films of Sergio Leone / Duck, You Sucker / Re: Final flashback on: February 14, 2018, 09:46:56 AM
What's interesting is that only the French release seems to have contained the full flashback. Given the meticulousness with which Leone prepared the French version, one can only assume that he wanted the flashback in there. This then begs the question about why it wasn't then in the Italian release. Did Leone have to bow to external pressures beyond his control or did he indeed remove it himself and then have a change of heart when it came to the French release?
6  Films of Sergio Leone / Duck, You Sucker / Re: Final flashback on: February 11, 2018, 06:35:17 PM
Here's a very interesting anecdote from Morricone regarding the reason for the shortening of the ending:

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Durante una proiezione privata di Giù la testa “quando vide mio cognato che si era alzato, mancavano cinque minuti, decise di tagliare il finale. L’edizione italiana di Giù la testa è stata tagliata da Sergio per quell’alzata di mio cognato”.

Someone over at the SWDb found it in this article:

http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/spettacoli/sergio-leone-voleva-togliermi-finale-pugno-dollari-1278157.html
7  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Sad Hill In Winter on: February 10, 2018, 04:15:55 AM
"The Good the Bad and the Ugly" meets "The Great Silence"
8  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: "OUATITW: Shot by Shot" by Frayling? on: February 10, 2018, 03:32:54 AM
I like photo books when the photos are not stills from the actual film unless the still itself is being provided to demonstrate a particular comment in the text regarding composition etc. Mike's book on Peckinpah for example has some great behind-the-scenes, deleted scenes and candid shots that are great to see. It actually took me a while to source all the behind-the-scenes shots of Leone and Valerii on "Nobody" since all I kept turning up was still after still of the actual film.
9  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: "OUATITW: Shot by Shot" by Frayling? on: February 09, 2018, 06:50:46 PM
Actually I guess it's a "triple entendre" then: every gun shot; scene by scene analysis; photographic stills.

They really should have kept that title.
10  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: "OUATITW: Shot by Shot" by Frayling? on: February 09, 2018, 01:49:29 PM
Some of us were initially wondering if the book was actually a shot-by-shot analysis of the film, and didn't realize that the "shot" referred to photographs. Perhaps that is why they changed the title.

That's why it was a clever title and should have been kept.

I've never read Fawell's book. Is it any good? I usually can't stand these "critical study" books on film; a bunch of nerdy stuff that takes all the joy out of watching a film. (Frayling is the one writer whose critical studies I can enjoy and who is able to do it without being nerdy and always being interesting and a great read.)

RE: this new book on OUATITW (if it ever gets released!) is a compilation of photographs by the late stills photographer Angelo Novi. I am sure there will be some text, of course, but who knows how much ...

I don't own it but browsed through a library copy once. I remember it being quite a slim volume with some interesting stuff about Leone's visual style in the latter part.
11  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: "OUATITW: Shot by Shot" by Frayling? on: February 09, 2018, 10:32:33 AM
The book has had a change of title.  SHOOTING A MASTERPIECE. Date is pushed back again as well. I liked the Shot by Shot title but hey.

Yeh no kidding - "Shot by Shot" had a clever double-entendre that is all but lost in "Shooting a Masterpiece". I wonder what forced that change?

I also wonder how this book will compare to Fawell's "The Art of Sergio Leone's Once Upon a Time in the West"? Judging by Frayling's previous works, it will certainly be longer!
12  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Best Offer - Giuseppe Tornatore (2013) on: February 07, 2018, 08:55:18 AM
Did you not at least appreciate the visual composition combined with Morricone's score?
13  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: Bandido! (1956) on: February 07, 2018, 08:53:07 AM
Hmm - I've never seen this one. It sounds like something I should check out. Thanks for posting.
14  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: The Great Silence aka Il grande silenzio (1968) on: January 27, 2018, 08:52:46 PM
The Hateful 8 is pretty much a Tarantinoized combination of an Agatha Christie novel + Day of the Outlaw.

 Grin not a bad analysis

I feel slightly guilty about OSTERMAN. I never liked it much and maybe watched the DVD once in 15 years. I have a nice 35mm print which I screened twice - that is about enough Smiley. Thanks for the note, I'll get that one...

The Peckinpah cut plays better. I just wish there was a decent print of it. Mike - I nominate you to create a custom version along the lines of OUATIA by using inferior quality scenes from the Peckinpah version in a a theatrical version re-cut to match the way Peckinpah originally had it.

what gives you the idea it is THE RAIDERS? I have no time to research right know, but I can't remember Sam already wrote feature scripts on spec back in 1952. I'd say he started later. Interesting.)

Well "The Raiders" also apparently went by the name "Riders of Vengeance" and Peckinpah has been written about so much that the fact that no-one seems to have mentioned this screenplay before makes it quite probable it was something he was involved in before he became a known name
15  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: The Great Silence aka Il grande silenzio (1968) on: January 26, 2018, 04:53:15 AM
and CROSS OF IRON will finally be released in the USA as well with
my 2 hours of supplements this year...

About time! I'm assuming the transfer will be the same? I've been enjoying my UK release for years now.

By the way, over at the Peckinpah forums, my theory is that "Riders of Vengeance" is "The Raiders" from 1952. Also "The Osterman Weekend" was just released on BD in Japan and is apparently not stellar but much better than the Anchor Bay BD debacle.
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