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1471  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Conversations avec Sergio Leone on: May 29, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
Good theory. That's what it sounds like to me too.
1472  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Conversations avec Sergio Leone on: May 29, 2009, 07:14:18 AM
It would be strange since Frayling never contradicts him about what happened with Steiger.

I think what Simsolo is suggesting here is that Steiger, not Leone, was the cause of many of the problems between the two of them. If I remember correctly, Frayling seems to suggest that it was as much to do with Leone as Steiger but I would have to re-read that section. 
1473  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Conversations avec Sergio Leone on: May 29, 2009, 06:43:41 AM
Possible. May be Simsolo's ability to read English isn't great... or maybe he's not talking about Frayling (who's not the only guy to write about Leone)...

"an English man, who is a cinema historian in a school"... that has to be Frayling, right? Although he's actually an art historian to be precise.
1474  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Conversations avec Sergio Leone on: May 29, 2009, 06:34:03 AM
I take it to mean just the opposite. Simsolo may be protesting what Frayling has reported, but it doesn't sound like they actually disagree.


Yup, Leone claims in Simsolo's book that the whole debacle regarding who was to direct Giu La Testa was set up by UA from the very beginning in order to have Leone, against his will, direct it. This is supposedly particularly the case after Coburn and Steiger apparently refused to appear without Leone's direction. Frayling cites Leone's claim but then suggests that this was rather a compromise reached later on after the whole Bogdanovich affair had already happened.

Whatever the case, boy am I glad Leone ended up directing!
1475  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Conversations avec Sergio Leone on: May 28, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
Thanks Noodles_Leone. Much appreciated  Afro
1476  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Conversations avec Sergio Leone on: May 28, 2009, 03:06:30 PM
Jenkins, there's a whole chunk before that too, but yes the bit you cite is the most interesting.

He is basically complaining about people giving Leone a really bad reputation by not fully accepting what is said in his book of interviews with him. I've translated the bit below where he is having a massive go at Frayling:


Non, c’est lamentable d’entendre un anglais, qui est historien du cinéma dans une école, réinventer complètement la gestation, le travail, la réalité, d’un film comme Giu la testa. Et il ne parle même pas de ce qui est pourtant dit clairement par Leone dans mon livre (je m’excuse de me citer) : que ce n’est pas lui qui devait faire le film, que ça c’est très mal passé avec Steiger, ce que Coburn m’a confirmé. Il raconte son histoire à lui par rapport aux témoins qu’il a vu vingt ou vingt cinq ans après. Tant pis, qu’est ce que vous voulez que j’y fasse, c’est pas mon problème. Si Sergio a passé la barque de Charron et est dans l’enfer grec, il doit se marrer comme une baleine.

No, it is sad to hear an English man, who is a cinema historian in a school, to completely reinvent the gestation, the work, the reality of a film like Giu La Testa. And he does not even speak of that which is however said clearly by Leone in my book (I excuse myself for citing myself): that it is not him was supposed to make the film, that [the film] went very badly with Steiger, this which Coburn confirmed to me. He tells his story to him in relation to witnesses who he has seen 20 or 25 years after. Tough, what would you want me to do, it is not my problem. If Sergio had crossed Charron’s fishing-boat and is in the Greek hell, he should be having a whale of a time.


I assume the last line is meant sarcastically but I'm not a native French speaker so may have got some of the nuances wrong...
1477  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Conversations avec Sergio Leone on: May 28, 2009, 10:48:04 AM
Check out pages 5-7:

Noël Simsolo: Entretien
1478  Other/Miscellaneous / Ennio Morricone / Re: Morricone: "Don't Call them Spaghetti Westerns'" on: May 26, 2009, 12:49:36 PM
I guess it should say Gillo Pontecorvo.

Man, these journalists really can't spell... or rather just don't know any better.

1479  Other/Miscellaneous / Ennio Morricone / Morricone: "Don't Call them Spaghetti Westerns'" on: May 26, 2009, 12:10:23 PM
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/morricone%20dont%20call%20them%20spaghetti%20westerns_1022035
1480  Other/Miscellaneous / Ennio Morricone / Re: The Legend of 1900 (La leggenda del pianista sull'oceano) on: May 26, 2009, 12:07:48 PM
And Tornatore's too.

Although you have to get the full Italian version and not the butchered international release.

One of my all-time favorite movies. Absolutely magnificent.
1481  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Western Books on: May 24, 2009, 08:21:24 AM

I have just received the first edition of this (with the title in the singular) and read it at a sitting.     

I'd never noticed that before. Bizarrely mine says "Conversation" on the cover but then "Conversations" on the inner title page.
1482  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Inglorious Bastards (or "Basterds", however he wants to spell it) (2009) on: May 24, 2009, 08:17:07 AM
The very beginning of Frayling's final chapter describes the scene in question in some depth.

Groggy, I just checked Frayling's book again and you're entirely correct. Still nice to see it in Leone's words though.
1483  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: Il mio nome è Nessuno aka My Name Is Nobody (1973) on: May 22, 2009, 05:36:46 AM
Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. Your casual Sergio Leone fan will have no idea about Leone's involvement in such things and the web board does little to help inform them.

Perhaps also included could be films which Leone had a cameo in like "The Bicycle Thief".
1484  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: Il mio nome è Nessuno aka My Name Is Nobody (1973) on: May 21, 2009, 03:30:53 PM
This may have been debated before (I've read the arguments for "Colossus") but how about giving "My Name is Nobody" its own main header on the front page of the web board?

I think a good case could be made.

Or alternatively how about a separate section for films Leone was known to have directed scenes in: "Nobody", "Genius" and "Cemetery Without Crosses"?
1485  Films of Sergio Leone / Duck, You Sucker / Re: How good is DYS? on: May 21, 2009, 01:30:15 PM
I would say warn them about the Deborah rape scene.  My mother left the room during it.   Sad

Good point. I must say I find the scene particularly disturbing myself and tend to fast-forward it. Needless to say, my wife did not appreciate it.
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