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1486  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Inglorious Bastards (or "Basterds", however he wants to spell it) (2009) on: May 21, 2009, 07:37:32 AM
Yes he does, particularly as regards the background and funding etc, but I have only found an actual detailed discussion of the opening scene in Simsolo.
1487  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Inglorious Bastards (or "Basterds", however he wants to spell it) (2009) on: May 21, 2009, 05:30:52 AM
Indeed it was, good call!

Just corrected that to "900 days of..." after checking my sources

I think it's one of the DYS special features where Chris Frayling (or somebody equally as important) describes the opening sequence of the film.

Pages 196-198 of Simsolo describes the introductory sequence. It's over page long but basically starts with one long opening scene beginning with a close-up of Shostakovich's hands playing on the piano, searching for the notes for "The Symphony of Leningrad", as the camera then moves out of the open window to follow the civilians heading off to fight to then cut, as the explosions start, to a huge Shostakovich concert. I really hope Tornatore uses it almost completely as Leone describes it.
1488  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Inglorious Bastards (or "Basterds", however he wants to spell it) (2009) on: May 20, 2009, 07:38:40 PM
QT mentions Leone's STALINGRAD movie in his first sentence in this vid...

http://www.festival-cannes.com/en/mediaPlayer/9973.html

Wasn't it "(The 900 days of) Leningrad" rather than "Stalingrad"?

Anyway, it's nice to have a nod in its direction, but personally I'm waiting for Tornatore to get his hands on that one. Plus I doubt Leone would have wanted it associated with the SW genre in any case. Although anything with Leone's name is of course inextricably linked to it purely by virtue of his SWs being the epitome of the genre.
1489  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Inglorious Bastards (or "Basterds", however he wants to spell it) (2009) on: May 20, 2009, 11:25:55 AM
I've always thought that using familiar pieces of music (movie scores or popular music) in movies is risky business. There's always the possibility that a viewer has previous emotional connections to the song and those might be totally unsuitable to the scene or movie in question. An example: When I heard Beethoven's seventh symphony in Les amants, all I could think about was The Fall which had used the same piece of music very effectively.

Yup I think that's one of my problems with Tarantino. All I'm gonna be thinking of is Cuchillo in those cane fields and when that theme from the "The Big Gundown" chimes in.

Plus I'm definitely more of a camera-work enthusiast than a dialogue enthusiast and Tarantino is heavily skewed to the latter.

Nevertheless, I do appreciate his desire to be different and his clear passion in what he does.
1490  Films of Sergio Leone / Duck, You Sucker / Re: How good is DYS? on: May 19, 2009, 09:54:57 AM
I re-watched this on Sunday night with my wife and mother-in-law. It went down really well. My plans to cultivate a taste for Sergio Leone in them is working very well indeed  Afro. They both loved this one as they did OUATIW and GBU.

Unfortunately my wife did not appreciate OUATIA too much when she watched it a while back with me but I'll try it out on her again with her mom who is now very eager to see the final installment of the OUAT trilogy.

Still have to show them FOD and FFDM too.
1491  General Information / Sergio Leone News / Re: Dario Argento on Sergio Leone: "How the West was written" on: May 19, 2009, 09:48:56 AM
As the article says "a very leftwing newspaper". However it looks like they spelled it wrongly: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paese_Sera
1492  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: Death Rides a Horse aka Da uomo a uomo (1967) on: May 19, 2009, 09:45:59 AM
I have the R2 release and it is a nice widescreen print. It is also very cheaply priced Smiley

However, in spite of the excellent shootout at the end, I must confess that I'm not a huge fan of this one. Personally I find "Tepepa" to be vastly superior. 
1493  General Information / Sergio Leone News / Re: Dario Argento on Sergio Leone: "How the West was written" on: May 18, 2009, 07:01:13 AM
I think this quote sums up Leone's brilliance perfectly:
 
"Sergio would discuss, not write. He would describe things very technically: first comes this shot, then the camera goes up, then moves in, and so on. Movies are not two people talking - that is theatre. The movie is the camera. Sergio could judge a script in two minutes: he would flip through it and if he saw lots of dialogue it was no good; if it had lot of descriptions then it was interesting. That is something I learned from him."
1494  General Information / Sergio Leone News / Dario Argento on Sergio Leone: "How the West was written" on: May 18, 2009, 07:00:37 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/may/14/sergio-leone-dario-argento
1495  Films of Sergio Leone / Duck, You Sucker / Re: How good is DYS? on: May 15, 2009, 05:46:11 AM
Will somebody PM me and tell me what happens in the desert scene? I've seen the newly released version and I don't know what part your talking about.

Just in case no one PMed you: Watch the 2nd disc of the SE DVD where it's explained. The scene involves Juan and his men torturing Mallory (see the previous posts on this thread) but was cut out. Only photographic evidence has been found.
1496  Films of Sergio Leone / Duck, You Sucker / Re: How good is DYS? on: May 14, 2009, 05:11:42 PM
It's absolutely perfect. One of the greatest films ever made. The whole movie is beautiful - the scenery and cinematography, the characters and their interactions , Morricone's musical score. Absolutely flawless. Incredible. Mind-blowingly good.

Combine the action and overall entertainment of GBU with the heart of Once Upon a Time in the West and you get "DUCK YOU SUCKER".

As much as it pains me to say it, I think I too prefer DYS to GBU.

In fact I would go so far as to say that the whole "Once Upon a Time" trilogy is superior to the "Dollars" trilogy. And they're both awesome trilogies!

Aren't we all lucky that in the end Sergio decided to direct this one himself!
1497  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Best Version? Vote! on: May 13, 2009, 11:29:09 AM
hmmm interesting....

The 175m version, apparently, didn't exist until someone put it together in the 1990-92 time frame.

I love the extra shots you get in this one. I particularly remember liking the different shots of Jill leaving in the buggy after she first arrives at the station. However, while interesting pieces of Leone footage, there is a good argument simply to include them as extras. This is particularly the case if Leone had originally cut them.

The International version is the one we have on R1 DVD now. Both the Italian restoration and the International version include Harmonica's rising from the dead scene. The European "Director's Cut" is essentially the International version with the rising from the dead scene not included. This was the version shown in Germany and France upon initial release, the only one of the three that can be said to have been "director approved."

If Leone did not want to show Harmonica getting up, then here again there is a good argument to include it (in the full Italian restored version rather than the abbreviated International one) as an extra.


Nevertheless, having said all that, I still love seeing movies in the longest versions possible so I also really appreciate the non-Leone approved (if that is indeed the case) Italian restoration. However, it should be noted that some of the scenes (like the Jill one above) are actually different shots replacing, rather than adding to, alternative footage in the other versions.
1498  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Italian CVC 175 minute version, original or latter day tinkering? on: May 13, 2009, 11:05:11 AM
I most certainly will.

Guess I must have just missed it when I watched it. I'll keep you posted.
1499  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Restored version screening this Sunday (May 3) in San Francisco.. on: May 12, 2009, 10:30:10 AM
One other element in the extended italian cut that I love is a shot of one of Morton's chess pieces falling over and him catching it..nice symbolism for his plans going awry...

There's a complete list of the differences right here:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/onceuponatimeintheest/ouatitw-ext.txt


My copy of the Italian DVD (http://www.ibs.it/dvd/8032442214679/henry-fonda-charles-bronson-claudia-cardinale-paolo/c-era-una-volta-il.html) does not seem to contain this scene. I guess the 175min Italian DVD must not be exactly the same as this one.
1500  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Italian CVC 175 minute version, original or latter day tinkering? on: May 12, 2009, 07:11:44 AM

I have a copy of the Italian DVD (http://www.ibs.it/dvd/8032442214679/henry-fonda-charles-bronson-claudia-cardinale-paolo/c-era-una-volta-il.html) and it does not seem to contain this scene:

Cheyenne's train surprise attack:
- Morton noticing the metal Jester chess piece of his desk shaking from the train's movement, it falls over and he quickly grabs it upright so as not to wake Frank's men.


I have seen screenshots of this scene so I know it exists but I was quite disappointed to find it not included here.
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