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1486  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Remastered Screening at BFI Southbank London on: July 23, 2009, 07:35:46 AM
From the UK Times today:

For a lesson in how to resuscitate a dying genre, you could do worse than Once Upon a Time in the West, Sergio Leone’s masterpiece from 1968. Leone makes his subversive intentions clear when a gunman shoots a small boy in the back and the camera curves round to reveal that the man in the black hat is none other than Henry Fonda.

The story was partly devised by Bernardo Bertolucci and the film might qualify as the first Marxist Western. Fonda isn’t the only legend to be toppled. The plucky homesteader who soldiers on after her family is gunned down turns out to be a former prostitute — a ripe and resplendent Claudia Cardinale — and the frontier town is revealed to be a Hobbesian dystopia in which ruthless predators compete for limited resources.

“Forget what you’ve heard about the Old West,” Leone seems to be saying. “This is how it really was.”

The irony, of course, is that in seeking to debunk one set of myths Leone created another. From the film’s opening scene, in which three gunmen are waiting to kill a man at a railway station, we’re plunged into an atavistic, dream-like world in which everyone is motived by either greed or revenge. This is drama at its most primitive and it unfolds like a Greek tragedy.

If you can endure the glacial pace, this newly restored 165-minute version is a must.

15, 165mins
1487  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Man with a Harmonica Rip-Off on: July 23, 2009, 07:17:24 AM
Of course it's a homage!

Here it is with video:
1488  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: Sergio Leone OUATIA Interview (RARE) on: July 23, 2009, 07:11:08 AM
Thanks, if only I could understand Italian better....

What's that bit at the end about immigrants and Columbus discovering America?
1489  General Information / Sergio Leone News / Re: Cinema Retro Movie Classics Dollars Trilogy Special Edition on: July 16, 2009, 06:53:56 PM
Something to look forward to Afro

I don't tend to buy magazines and first heard of these guys when they did the issue with The Big Gundown. I must say I was very impressed. Pricey yes, but hardly any advertisements at all.
1490  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: NYT's Renata Adler's quote from review on: July 14, 2009, 06:14:56 AM
It's accessible on the NY Times website but it's not free unless you're a home delivery subscriber: The Burn, the Gouge, and the Mangle
1491  Other/Miscellaneous / Ennio Morricone / Re: Favorite Ennio Morricone Score on: July 13, 2009, 12:56:23 PM
No one mentioned Malena? The last time Ennio was robbed of an Oscar? That had a beautiful score.  

Yeh, beautiful movie too. I had to get a Korean import in order to find an uncut version with English subtitles. All the English-friendly releases elsewhere appear to have been censored for too much Bellucci nudity.
1492  Films of Sergio Leone / The Colossus of Rhodes / Re: The Last Days Of Pompei on: July 08, 2009, 12:41:21 PM
Does anyone know how the 2008 German release compares with the 2007 French re-release?
1493  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Western Books on: July 06, 2009, 09:17:36 PM
I can tell you that Luis & Bacalov had a personal and professional relationship. In fact, they COWROTE SOME SCORES!
Circumstantial evidence, yes, but it adds more credibility to my conjecture>

Nice interview with Bacalov here where he talks about his relationship with Morricone.
1494  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: Elizabeth McGovern Interview on: July 06, 2009, 09:51:28 AM
First time for me. Very interesting to read about her feelings both as regards herself and De Niro.
1495  General Information / General Discussion / Re: My Name is Nobody....A thread of its own?? on: July 06, 2009, 08:49:42 AM
Are you trying to say all films Leone ever worked on deserve their own board? I would vehemently disagree with that, if only because there are so many and there would be little point - I doubt there'd be much discussion about Sodom and Gomorroah or The Last Days of Pompeii. After all, look at how little discussion there is on the COR and FOD boards.

No, just a single board for "Leone-related Films" that is separate from the "Other Films" section where just about anything is discussed.
1496  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Bicycle Thieves (1948) on: July 06, 2009, 08:44:18 AM
If any of you have seen this piece of classic Italian cinema, perhaps you know that Sergio Leone is in it.  I'm not quite sure who he is, but there is a scene where a bunch of students, I believe, are huddling under an umbrela, and one of them is Leone.  He was described to me as "the one wearing glasses", although several of the men are wearing glasses.

I just thought this would be an interesting piece of trivia.

Leone actually gets about 15-20 seconds camera time. He is shown chatting back and forth between the guy off-screen to his left (as in the picture below) and across the main character (Alberto Ricci played by Lamberto Maggiorani) with the one on his far right:

1497  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Bicycle Thieves (1948) on: July 06, 2009, 08:22:18 AM
Juan Miranda is of course correct, the U.K. title is the better translation of the title. But titles don't have to be literally translated when films move between cultures. An example of this is Wenders' Wings of Desire, which in German was (and is) Der Himmel Uber Berlin. Wenders actually claims to have come to prefer the English-language title. And there are many examples where titles in one language work better in a second language with a bit of tweaking. Readers of this board will naturally think of the BBC/GBU case: word order changed due to alliteration and cadance.

Good point, and I can see arguments for both. I wonder which De Sica would have preferred if asked (or was he ever?). Personally I think a literal translation is better as it respects his original title unless he suggests otherwise.

This also made me think of Corbucci's "Gli Specialisti" which has predominantly French actors and the main shooting language appears to have been French (hence the language in which it should be watched). In French, it is called "Le Specialiste" meaning "The Specialist" (as the US title) but the Italian title means "The Specialists". Now to be faithful to Corbucci, the plural should perhaps be maintained but seeing as this is a French dominated work, perhaps the singular should be preferred. A singular title also makes more sense as Hud is the only "specialist" although perhaps the plural title is also referring to his brother Charlie who he is avenging?
1498  General Information / General Discussion / Re: My Name is Nobody....A thread of its own?? on: July 05, 2009, 08:07:41 AM
Well there looks to be some vehement opposition to this. However, I personally think it would be nice to have a separate section for all movies in which Leone is known to have been directly involved because it gives a more complete picture of his life's work.

Right now the 'other films' section includes everything from "The Last Days of Pompeii" to "Transformers 2". I think a separate section for Leone-related films would be preferable. Off the top of my head, I would suggest including the following to which many more could be added (obviously the level of involvement varies considerably):

Sodom & Gomorrah
The Last days of Pompeii
My Name is Nobody
Cemetery Without Crosses
Bicycle Thief
1499  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: Il mio nome è Nessuno aka My Name Is Nobody (1973) on: July 05, 2009, 08:03:47 AM
Yeah, I think it has been suggested before. It's kinda funny since this sub-board was originally meant for those films, I think. "If it's not list above, this is the spot. Discuss all other Leone related films here." Maybe this could be renamed "Other Western Movies" and a new board called "Other Leone Related Movies" (or something) could be created. But I have no huge problem with the current arrangement.

Ok just found the old thread for this:
1500  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Restored version screening this Sunday (May 3) in San Francisco.. on: July 03, 2009, 08:22:42 AM
Yes Cheyenne's theme does come in with the credits on both versions but the credits appear earlier in the International version than in the Italian one.
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