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16  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: August 09, 2017, 08:43:08 PM
Quote from: MisterLime;13947783
We also have the 4K/UHD rights to the trilogy, but decided not to release GBU on 4K/UHD, not because of the cost of producing such discs, but because we didn't want to go through this allover again. If the release ends up doing really well… ?

No thanks!
17  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: July 1st this year: Happy 150th birthday, Canada! on: July 04, 2017, 03:03:10 PM
The weather in Vancouver was fantastic! An absolutely amazing weekend of festivities.
18  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Sad Hill Unearthed - The Documentary on: June 15, 2017, 01:20:04 PM
17 days to goal and 70% of the money has been collected. Who hasn't contributed yet?
Me. Not yet, but I certainly will.
19  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: June 15, 2017, 01:15:42 PM
Lil brutto and I are certainly trying to get this film released the way Sergio intended...thanks!

That comparison video of the Tuco gang/hotel scene is fantastic. Excellent job.  Afro
20  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: April 16, 2017, 12:05:36 PM
KL claims their footage of the SS is approximately 8 seconds longer than the fan source.
21  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: April 13, 2017, 01:20:09 PM
The grotto scene will be removed for their release version (which will be an approximation of the International Cut/US theatrical cut) and he says they have the elements to restore the original transition from the gun shop scene to the following mass exodus of confederate soldiers.

I find it strange that KL doesn't have access to the 35mm elements for the flip cut transition given it was used for the 2009 Sky Cinema restoration used for the Mondo BD.

We didn't get the opportunity to point that, in addition to entire scenes, there are more subtle shots here and there that were not in the IC. For example, the dining scene at Stevens ranch is shorter in the IC.
22  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: April 12, 2017, 07:18:41 PM
MisterLime: Okay, this needs to stop, I said all I will say about this, please take your complaints elsewhere. This thread is actually for announcements, questions and answers.

Thanks to everyone who posted. The representative from Kino has essentially told us to "shut up", and he refuses to answer my polite and specific questions about the theatrical cut. So buyer beware I guess...at least we tried. This is only...motivation for the future Smiley

He'd be much better off responding to our queries honestly rather than ignoring/dismissing us as an annoyance.

UPDATE: He did provide some answers so that's good.
23  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: April 09, 2017, 08:59:35 PM
They're going to do their own thing.
24  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: April 09, 2017, 10:42:08 AM
There you have it. KL is not using an IB TECH print any other source as a color reference.

MisterLime says:

"One of the main reasons we acquired THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY was to FINALLY release the beloved theatrical cut. Many of the older fans who grew up watching the original disliked and even hated the extended cut, not just because it almost ruins the masterpiece, but also because it had completely replaced the original.

We had no idea the 4K restoration had some complaints due to the overall yellowishness of the master. We decided to do our own tests and agreed that it was a bit too yellow, so we did some minor color correction to create a version we feel is closest to the prints we had all seen screened many times and we don't agree with fans who think we should've gone further to create the look of the old releases, which we felt were too blue. What we'll be releasing will be the essential Blu-ray release of the classic, it will include both cuts, include all the previously produced extras and some very cool new ones. Will everyone be 100% happy with the transfer? We hope so, but realistically we doubt it, we think most of the fans will be very happy, some may still have issues with the color, and others will just post negative comments just to get a reaction because that's what they do."
25  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: April 07, 2017, 06:29:41 PM
Based on those screencaps KL is attempting to reverse the (irreversible) damage - the yellowish-teal color cast - done by L'Immagine Ritrovata to the 4K master rather than use a "raw" source without L'Immagine Ritrovata's meddling. The fact is this has already been done by fans not too long after the 2014 MGM BD release. (It looks like the fans have done a better job although KL may still be planning to tweak their regrade some more. Those caps still show excess green.) The problem with the BD is you can only pull back the yellowish-green cast so far before you start screwing up the other colors. If that's the same case with the master in the hands of KL then they won't be able to do much better.
26  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: March 23, 2017, 03:29:51 PM
I am so happy I saw a gorgeous 35mm print  few years ago - you nailed down the "actual" colors!


Fans of the film are perpetually optimistic that the NEXT OFFICIAL RELEASE will get it right if not this time. For the past 15 years or so we've been repeatedly disappointed becuase we have been making a rather huge assumption that the those responsible (MGM or the licensee like KL) actually give a shit and will faithfully reproduce the original theatrical presentation for BOTH cuts. History shows they don't give a shit otherwise we would have our desired version by now considering they have all the resources to do so. Even a bunch of hardcore fans have managed to pool their resources and now know how the film originally looked and what comprised the Italian cut and International Cut. Efforts have been made recently to share this info with KL but no response yet. I guess we'll have to see what they come up with.
27  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: March 22, 2017, 09:33:18 PM
Or the ACTUAL colors. It's really not that hard to figure out.  Angry
28  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: March 22, 2017, 04:11:03 PM
Essentially the same answer regarding the color grading.

"We don't know why it would worry you one way or another." What does this mean?
29  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: March 21, 2017, 08:32:06 PM
Here's the KL representative's response to my questions in another forum:

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MisterLime,

Many folks have been asking this very question on several forums over the past few days. Will the KL release of the US theatrical cut be sourced from the 2014 4K master (used for the 2014 MGM BD) or a new 4K master? If the 2014 4K master will be used for the US theatrical cut will the image be altered in any way in terms of color, saturation, contrast?

Also, what is the source of the "M.O.S. Deleted Scene of Blondie in the desert finding skeletons"? Did you find this previously unseen footage in the archives or elsewhere?

Quote from: MisterLime
The 4K master will be the same master, we're looking into the yellowishness of the master and see if we can make some improvements. We'll make further announcements later.

MGM found the M.O.S. deleted scene and offered it to us as an extra, that's all I know.
30  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: March 13, 2017, 08:48:45 PM
I co-produced the US CONVOY Blu-ray for them a year ago, nice company, some really good titles.

With your connections, can you got some insider info on their GBU release?
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