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601  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 16, 2010, 03:23:50 AM
Now go buy those stiks ! The change in plan also means that I can spent lots of time on the exterior of the car,weathering it, having fun and concentrating on what I really like to do ,making things look old and telling stories.
602  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 15, 2010, 06:25:43 PM
You have a point there.Things do have a way of happening when you're commited to working on a project.
It really is the first step probably the most important an artist will ever make.
I just bought some more coffee stir stiks today 4 bucks for about a 1000 stiks I would say.This doesn't have to be expensive.If my style of art appeals to you all you need is a little glue and cheap acrylic paint or watercolors mixed with a little imagination and away you go.Do grandma's privy! Smiley
603  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 15, 2010, 05:48:48 PM
604  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 15, 2010, 05:24:32 PM
Changed my mind again . I won't be doing the interior of the luxury car after all.I reviewed the film again today and it just contains too much stuff.Fine scale furniture building is not something that I really want to do and buying that stuff costs a fortune.It really would not add a lot to the diorama and actually it might be distracting.The primary purpose for the car is to have a Morton Railway logo which is on the outside anyway.I can just make up some wooden blinds ,light the interior through the blinds to add atmosphere and put a sign on the stage door side saying something like "Movie Set,please keep door closed."
The car/shack plus the fake locomotive should get the sub-story line of movies being mostly about illusion, across to the viewer without going to all the trouble involved with building the interior of the Morton car.
605  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 15, 2010, 06:12:16 AM
You know it is funny how it goes with art. I started off wanting to do and learn about everything.Take figures for example,I wanted to learn how to do them as I thought at the time, that they really completed a diorama.Normally this is true ,they add a sense of scale and life to the scene.In my work I only used them in relaxed positions,standing talking in groups for example.No action not even walking as I felt that it broke the illusion of "a moment in time."My first diorama had three figures,the next five,after that too many for the fourth diorama, then it was back to one, and now none.
A lot of artists are the same from what I see around me.In the beginning they want to prove that they can master the techniques,then having done that they want to experiment with their own ideas and a lot of the time it is about minimizing things to the point where you can get say what you have to say as simply as possible.
Some artists minimize a whole aspect of their art and tell an even more powerful story by letting the viewers imagination fill in the blanks. Making a film with 15 pages of dialogue in a 3 hour piece is a wonderful example of this.When you do it right it can become a masterpiece !
606  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 15, 2010, 03:54:26 AM
Sergio topping Once Upon A Time In The West?  That was his best masterpiece. Does that sound right? In any case,I don't think he could have done anything better.   Haven't been in Hobby Lobby for quite some time. This makes me want to get back into crafting again,but my budget says otherwise.   I think Sergio would be pleased with what you are doing.  Afro
You obviously have the interest which really is 90% of it.When working in wood it really is not that expensive.It has been my experience that once you commit to doing something like this, things happen to make it possible. Afro
607  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 14, 2010, 04:09:14 PM
608  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 14, 2010, 04:32:47 AM
These Bachmann kits are super for kit bashing.The way that they have been designed to go together makes them very easy to work with.They could be broken down even further by cutting the walls in four separate pieces.This wasn't necessary for my purposes here as I am not doing a lot of fancy detailing on the car/shack.When it comes to the luxury car though it will be necessary in order to do all the carpentry that will be required.The car/shack piece has turned out to be the best place to have started to become familiar with the construction methods as the work here is fairly loose in the tolerances required.

For the luxury Victorian car I plan to buy a lot of the furniture in 1/24 scale from the miniatures world (dollhouses).They seem to love Victorian furniture and have loads to chose from.Building fancy furniture is another hobby itself so I might as well take advantage of what is out there already.My principal is "buy what you can and built what you must."Up until now this has meant just about everything as what is available is very limited in 1/16th scale but in 1/24 the sky is the limit. (or should I say my hobby budget)I should have lots of time to build it back up again as after this car/shack I plan on doing the locomotive which will be mostly out of the box.I will be doing a lot of bashing on it however, as it will be depicted as a fake locomotive built for film purposes, not like the other two pieces that were adaptations of real cars.(in my world).I am sure that the way it was really done in the film studios would have been much different than I am depicting here.What I am trying to create here is an art piece using lots of artistic license,just like they do in Hollywood ! This will be an empty sound stage with no figures at all just the empty directors chair which is what the story is all about anyway.Sergio left us much too soon just when he was getting it all together as a director,who knows what other great stuff he had planned.I wonder though could he have ever have topped "Once upon at time..........? a recognized masterpiece of film making.
609  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 13, 2010, 11:32:53 AM
610  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 13, 2010, 05:10:56 AM
Making a little progress on the station/shack area.That hanging board fascinates me,you can be sure that it was not put there accidentally by Sergio.If you look closely at the pic you can see the top of a cowboy hat on the L/H side of the pic.That is where the famous" fly on the face" scene happened.I have not yet weathered this area until it is finished,both sides of these boards will require finishing as both areas are in the film.One of my modeling buds actually went out and took some pics for me of old desert railway cars near Carson City Nevada.That was very kind of him to do so! It always amazes me that the vast majority of modelers can be so kind to their buds.
611  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 13, 2010, 04:07:16 AM
612  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 12, 2010, 12:37:22 PM
Tongue depressors make great roofing boards.The boards may look wide to the modern eye but they really were easily available in those days.Each board was hand selected for color,pattern , texture and lots of defects.Ten years ago I had bought a whole load of these second quality depressors and used the best of them for hangars that I was building .I kept what I thought was junk just in case,and a good thing it was that I did, because they are perfect for my purposes now.As a modeler one thing I learned early on was not to throw anything model related or what could be model related away.
I used my usual nimbus gray/raw sienna mix and lots of water and created a wash.I put on three thin coats and dried between coats with a hair dryer.It is my normal practice to color my boards before putting them on the model but in this case I only want to paint the film set side and leave the prop side natural,like a prop would be in reality..You don't paint what won't be seen in the film!
The carpentry is crude in keeping with what I see in my references.I haven't yet decided on the weathering I will do on these boards, because the desert environment is something new to me.There are two ways I can approach this, either the rail car was brought from the east and was mostly weathered in a damper environment with lots of rust etc... or leave the wood bleached from the sun ,or something in between.
613  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 12, 2010, 10:33:17 AM
614  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 12, 2010, 04:57:17 AM
615  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone Movie Set Diorama on: September 12, 2010, 03:28:25 AM
Moving on to the shack portion of this RR diorama I am starting to put up the roof rafters and boards.I want to make both the cars roof and shack roof detachable for ease of working on and any future maintenance that may be required.
I want this roof to look old so I put a little sway back in the beams.The wood was bent by simply steaming it a while over a stove top pan,then I took an old curling iron ,heated  it up and hand bent it over the round tip.The center beam and rafters were then cut to length and installed right on the model.For this I used extra thick crazy glue to tack it all in place.Generally I don't use a lot of CA but for this tacking operation it really is the best way to go,from here on I will use the yellow carpenters glue as I am sensitive to the CA's fumes.
This shack is a lot of fun to do,it is easy in one aspect as exact standards are not required due to the nature of what I am building but then again you really have to study your references to make it look right.
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