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1  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Deborah - all a dream? on: August 12, 2003, 09:19:07 PM
It struck me last night - when Noodles meets Deborah as an adult, here she is in Fat Moe's place.  That struck me as a little out of character.  I would imagine that she would have 'moved on' from all the shady dealings of her young buddies and they would have probably shielded her from it (especially Moe, although Moe ain't known for being too clever).  Also, after that initial encounter we don't see her there again.  (Admittedly she could have been talked into coming just for Noodles sake, but bare with me).  

Every time we see her as an adult she is beautiful and out of reach (something that would have irked the younger Noodles) and even when the kiss in the back of the car he still can't have her.  The made up 'older' (haha) Deborah is there to explain all that happened (and for the final act of betrayal).

Is it possible that if Noodles is dreaming the coming home elder section, then he could be dreaming meeting Deborah again as an adult, his actual memories being unreliable (and egged on by fantasy / unfulfilled wishes / guilt etc)?
2  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:OUATIA-DVD review on: August 12, 2003, 09:08:41 PM
Just checked out the R4 version last night.  Goes 220 minutes and disc one finished right where my VHS tape 1 finished (Noodles shoots the bad guy in the grain silo).

Light on the special features - commentary as before and excerpts from a Leone special (the one which got me into Leone in the first place) with (among other things) commentary by Quentin Tarantino calling for a Leone rather than an extreme close-up  Grin

I'd love to see the whole special again.  It was one of a series of 3.  One other was about John Carpenter (and I would more dearly love to see THAT one again) and the other was (I think) Dario Argento.

Oh! and the DVD picture quality was pretty good (judging by the detail on Bobbie's unshaven face in the Opium den.
3  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: Fat Moe on: August 12, 2003, 09:02:44 PM
(Poor man, everyone in the film disses him, even those who won't leave straight away when he asks!)

Anyway, watching the film again last night (on DVD for the first time) - I noticed that when the young gang first meet at the locker, they agree to give the key to Moe... and not tell him what it is for.

At the start of the film when Noodles gets the key, Moe notes that "it is all yours now."

What is the enterpretation of that?  Moe found out?  Someone told him?  The group told him?  Noodles forgot that detail in his dream state ( Wink)?  Sloppy editing?
4  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:i have it in Australia on: August 12, 2003, 08:56:32 PM
Picked it up and watched it last night (at the local Blockbuster if you please - so much for going to Grace Bros for the fly-buys).  I will post the features on a DVD review thread.
5  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Cheyenne the half-breed on: August 04, 2003, 04:54:43 PM
Fair enough.  I guess that I was a bit confused by the name.  Cheyenne struck me as an indian word, and with respect to Jason Robards... he just didn't look one way or the other!
6  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Cheyenne the half-breed on: August 01, 2003, 03:25:43 PM
My VHS copy of West (at least for the time being) has a comment at the back that Cheyenne was a half-breed.  That did not strike me in the film.  What was he?  Half-what?  Is there any evidence in his behaviour or in the dialogue that I should look out for?

(As far as dialogue is concerned - can't wait for the DVD.  I love watching film with subtitles and I recommend this practice at least once.  You will be surprised what you pick up that you will have previously missed).
7  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Morton and the water picture on: August 01, 2003, 03:21:33 PM
Just watching West again, one thing reference not so clear to me is the extreme close-up of Morton after the opening of the auction.  He is looking at a portrait of the sea (I think with the sound effects of waves crashing).

What is the significance, other than his respect for water and its relevance to the steam engine.  Huh
8  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Al Mulock on: August 01, 2003, 03:16:13 PM
Thank you for both the welcome and the reply TC-SM  Smiley (always nice to be welcomed with the first post, and you will be seeing me around).

Just watched West again overnight, and I will be watching the Dollars trilogy again soon.  I will keep an eye out for Al, as well as other recurring actors that I missed.
9  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:i have it in Australia on: August 01, 2003, 01:35:37 AM
For the rest of us, we have to wait another week.
10  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Al Mulock on: August 01, 2003, 01:19:42 AM
I was always wondering which of the gunslingers was Al.  According to the avatars that I see people using, I take it that he was the eldest of the three - the one hassling the canary in the cage?

Another thing - how was it known that he committed suicide?  Did he leave a note or was that the finding of an / the inquiry?  (I apologise for the brevity of the question).
11  Films of Sergio Leone / A Fistful of Dollars / Re:Favorite moment on: August 01, 2003, 01:13:45 AM
"I don't work cheap."
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