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31  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: The White, the Yellow, and the Black (1975) on: August 08, 2005, 04:15:26 PM
Is it really that bad (Corbucci's Bianco, giallo, nero, for those who can't be bothered to click the link)?

It's weird with Corbucci - with Mercenary and Great Silence he was clearly finding some kind of style and sophistication. Why did he fall from grace in the 70s and 80s? Maybe it's just that once the money wasn't there any more he just started chucking out the exploitation cheapos again.
32  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Minaldi on: August 06, 2005, 09:01:58 AM
Theory posted by Poggle on another thread:

Now I have this crazy-assed theory about Minaldi - After finding out that the gang is going to be getting involved in the trucking business(If I remember correctly), he wants Max killed(For the same reason Bugsy beat the **** out of them) and uses Carol to manipulate Noodles into turning him in, though I wonder if Minaldi's men entering the Chinese theater is part of the dream or during his "sense of clarity".

This has got me thinking. There is definately more to the Mindaldi subplot than meets the eye I think. One bit I remember, is the scene - after the gang visit Jimmy Cleanhands in hospital - in the hospital foyer, when Max and Noodles decide to take a holiday. The scene ends showing Minaldi is lurking around, watching them.

I suspect the stuff that was cut from Leone's original eight hours contains a lot of Joe Pesci...
33  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: I know why it's all just a dream on: August 06, 2005, 08:56:21 AM
Now I have this crazy-assed theory about Minaldi - After finding out that the gang is going to be getting involved in the trucking business(If I remember correctly), he wants Max killed(For the same reason Bugsy beat the **** out of them) and uses Carol to manipulate Noodles into turning him in, though I wonder if Minaldi's men entering the Chinese theater is part of the dream or during his "sense of clarity".

Interesting... In fact I'll start a new thread about it.
34  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Something to do with dubbing on: August 05, 2005, 05:44:45 AM
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35  General Information / General Discussion / Re: I hate it when SW's are made "campy" on: August 04, 2005, 05:55:38 AM
There are three kinds of imitation in this world my friend:

Influence - Not taking anything directly, just doing it in the style of e.g. "This is how [I think] Leone would have done it if he was directing".

Homage/nod - A subtle little reference, usually to an influence. Inconsequential to the plot and simply there for the sake of it - e.g. using names from other films, imitating famous shots etc.

Rip-off - Directly thieving ideas, plotlines, dialogue etc, e.g. most of Tarantino's work.

36  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: Why do we love OUATIA so much? on: August 04, 2005, 05:47:04 AM
I guess it's not so much a case of originality, just for me it kind of breaks down the sophistication of the film a bit. I actually think it's quite clever the way it's subtley in the background in the old noodles/senator bailey scene. I guess the thing that annoys me most is those little snatches of vocal in the bus station scene "Yesterday...", it makes it distracting.
37  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Top 5 of each on: August 03, 2005, 04:54:26 PM
it is a western not a hippie music video...

I guess it IS very much of its time, although I wouldn't call it a hippy movie.

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and they make butch and sundance out to be hippie fag cowboys?

Hahaha. If it implied Butch and Sundance were gay I would actually like it even more. I suppose there are menage-a-trois implications with Etta Plaice, kind of reminds me of the flashbacks in DYS.
38  General Information / Trivia Games / Re: anyone mind if i join the game ? on: August 03, 2005, 06:24:54 AM
Do you mean the same actor or is it just the name Sheriff John Bartha being re-used?
39  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Top 5 of each on: August 03, 2005, 06:18:23 AM
I unashamedly love BC+SK - I think it's a classic. True it has a bit of a roundabout plot, the transitional montage things are a bit weird and I guess not everyone will like the humour in it, so I can see why some people might not like it. There's also more emotion than action, so some people might dislike it for that reason.

Obviously I'm not just some lone nutjob with bad film taste, since others on FoL like it to (it's also #124 on IMDb). I guess it's just cos Leone spans so many different styles and ideas that his fans have vastly different tastes as well.
40  Films of Sergio Leone / For a Few Dollars More / Re: Frayling's commentary on: August 02, 2005, 03:17:33 PM
Frayling does have this tendency to mention funny or romantic-sounding behind-the-scenes stories, which may or may not be true. For example on both the FFDM commentary and the documentary on disc 2 he tells this story about Leone's first meeting with Van Cleef, and it's in car park in the rain, and they've got a suitcase full of cash to offer him and Leone sees LVC from a distance and says something like "He looks perfect. Don't let him speak or I might change my mind" and Van Cleef accepts on the spot and is on a plane to Italy a few hours later. Then in an interview with Alberto Grimaldi on the same disc, he tells a completely different story about him and Leone first meeting Van Cleef in a bar. Frayling's story sounds lovely if it were true, but I'm more inclined to believe someone who was actually there.
41  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: References to OUATIA in other movies on: August 02, 2005, 02:56:25 PM
I guess Pulp Fiction would be shots of people opening the "666" briefcase which kind of echo the opening of the gang's fund briefcase in OUTA.

On the subject of Brazil, has anyone else spotted a very subtle nod to GBU in it? When Sam (Pryce) goes to meet Jack (Palin) at his office, he looks down at the floor, notices a puddle of blood and smears it with his toe - it's an almost shot to the one in GBU where Blondie is talking to Angeleyes immediately after Tuco's torture.

I sent that one off to the IMDb updates people months ago, but they haven't added it.
42  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Visconti and Pasolini on: August 02, 2005, 02:42:25 PM
I got Il Gattopardo a few weeks back and I didn't like it too much. I'm fine with long, slow-paced films (obviously), but I don't know, there just wasn't enough there to suck me in.

Having said that, it may well grow on me.
43  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Top 5 of each on: August 02, 2005, 02:30:05 PM
SW:

5. The Mercenary
4. The Great Silence
3. FFDM
2. GBU
1. OUTW

AW:

5. The Searchers
4. High Noon
3. The Wild Bunch
2. The Man who Shot Liberty Valance
1. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
44  Films of Sergio Leone / A Fistful of Dollars / Re: Missing footage? DVD on: August 02, 2005, 02:18:14 PM
That scene isn't in the old UK video release either. I've yet to see the new MGM special edition DVD
45  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Create Your Own Magnificent Seven! on: July 28, 2005, 01:04:56 PM
Django (Franco Nero) from Django.
Sanjuro (Toshiro Mifune) from Yojimbo.
Ogami Itto (Tomisaburo Wakayama) from Sword of Vengeance.
Yuki (Meiko Kaji) from Lady Snowblood.
Jack Carter (Michael Caine) from Get Carter.
John (James Coburn) from Duck, You Sucker!
Frankenstein (David Carradine) from Death Race 2000
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