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13681  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:Italian vs. English Title on: March 09, 2004, 10:08:11 PM
uh.....topic? Couldn't we talk about that?
13682  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Italian vs. English Title on: March 08, 2004, 01:12:39 AM
Does anyone think that GBU's different titles can affect the film's reception? We all know that _Il Buono...
etc. translates as _The Good, the Ugly, and the Bad_ and this may have a different nuance than GBU (Italian users help me out). One of the things that makes the English title work so well is that at the beginning of the film the three main characters are introduced in reverse order to the title, a sequence that the Italian title is unable to exploit.....
13683  General Information / General Discussion / Re:LEONE and PECKINPAH on: March 08, 2004, 12:52:41 AM

In comparing Leone and Peckinpah, I view their films as being very different.  They both breathed new life into the western film, but did so in very different manners.  Leone films are more painterly and visual, while Peckinpah's film are more literary and cerebral.  Before anyone jumps on me, yes, Peckinpah is very visual too and, yes, Leone and also intellectual, but I do not believe that was the main emphasis of their efforts or necessarily what we remember them for.

Of course, these two filmmakers were very different, but what makes this discussion interesting is finding areas in common. Although the two were sylistically different, I submit that they were exercised by similar themes. One of those themes, perhaps, was an exploration of machismo: how does a heterosexual male demonstrate his masculinity when there are no women around, when that masculinity can only be expressed in the presence of other men? What are the hallmarks of friendship? What do words like "loyalty" and "betrayal" really mean? These worthy questions, raised by both P and L, are too often ignored by most Anglo-saxon filmmakers.
13684  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Movies you just like to watch over and over? on: March 08, 2004, 12:07:31 AM
Huh, no one has mentioned 2LB yet. I'm surprised.....
13685  Films of Sergio Leone / Duck, You Sucker / Re:Is FOD/DYS a Western? on: March 07, 2004, 11:36:06 PM
Who cares? It's a mighty film whatever it is. I've heard films set in the Mexican revolution called "Zapata westerns". But even by your criteria, well it's supposed to be in 1913 (I think, despite some anachronisms), so it is just before WW1. And it's set in Mexico, but then so is Fistful of Dollars.

But then, Eastwood in FOD is a recognizably Western character (the American gunslinger who has gone south).

I guess my point is that DYS, IMHO, has more in common with OUTA then it does with the earlier Leone Westerns.....
13686  Films of Sergio Leone / Duck, You Sucker / Is FOD/DYS a Western? on: March 04, 2004, 12:14:00 AM
I notice that many postings refer to FOD as a Western, but is it? Doesn't a Western have to either 1) be set in the western U.S. somewhere between, oh, say, the Polk Administration and WWI, or 2) when set somewhere else, at least involve characters transplanted from a Western setting (as happens in _The Wild Bunch_)? Neither of these conditions are met by FOD/DYS, which is set in Mexico and features only locals and a transplanted *Irishman.*
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