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13771  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:The gold and the epilogue. on: June 30, 2004, 06:47:43 PM
So, Blondie might have continued on to Bolivia or someplace safer. Or maybe he caught a boat to Europe. Anyway, he had a lot of options (men with $100,000 always do) and I think he would have tried several hundred of them before opting to melt down the gold. What does melting the gold really do for him, anyway? He still has to protect it from those who would take it from him by force.

I think the real question is: what would Tuco do with *his* $100,000? And the answer to me is obvious: he would immediately use it to try to get Blondie's $100,000. Tuco tracked Blondie before, and successfully, and that was only for revenge. Revenge can be, no doubt, an exquisite pleasure, but it can't compare with the ecstacy of gold.
13772  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / The New Mexico Campaign on: June 30, 2004, 05:58:47 PM
One question that inevitably arises when considering the Civil War background of GBU is how much actual history needs to be taken into account. The mention of both Sibley and Canby in the film indicates that Leone wanted to reference at least some elements of the New Mexico campaign. No doubt we are right to limit the events of GBU to Feb. 1862 through April 1862, the dates of Sibley's expedition. But what else? Sad Hill can't represent any actual graveyard: only 280 men died in the campaign, and Sad Hill seems to hold several thousand. There was no battle for a bridge over a river, either (and what New Mexican river would that be, anyhow?), so perhaps much of the action must be considered metaphorical or symbolic. But how can we determine when things should be taken literally, and when not?
13773  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:How do Angel Eyes and Tuco know each other on: June 30, 2004, 05:56:35 PM
One more thing to consider: at Tuco's second "hanging," Angel Eyes tells a woman onlooker that men with ropes around their necks don't always hang. Then he mentions that Tuco has a guardian angel, in fact, a golden-haired one. Obviously, Angel Eyes knows all about their con: but how? Since they only began pulling it after they met, Angel Eyes must have witnessed the routine somewhere during the course of the events depicted in the film. The only way to account for this, it seems to me, is with a missing scene.....
13774  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:The gold and the epilogue. on: June 28, 2004, 05:07:20 PM
That's why banks were invented. A Mexican bank would have been more than happy to take a deposit of $100,000 in gold.
13775  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:The gold and the epilogue. on: June 27, 2004, 10:15:09 PM
It's possible that Blondie and Tuco might have some explaining to do if they tried spending their coins in the Confederate states (while the Confederation lasts, that is). But they can go anywhere else (Mexico, say) and spend their gold there. That's the beauty of gold. It has intrinsic value, and doesn't require any government bank to back it.
13776  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Harmonica: Native American or Mexican on: June 24, 2004, 10:11:49 PM
"... socially and culturally constructed term, and the idea that state borders today (that are results of political struggles, colonialism and war) somehow regulate distinctions of "race", is, at best, anachronistic and logically false. Apart from that its also stupid. Thats why the notion of "race" is stupid. It's characterized with cultural definitions that we somehow try to impose on nature, thereby creating "objective categories". Which they are not."

This is pretty close to the point I was trying to make. Unless we have some way in OUATITW to determine Harmonica's cultural identity, the question of whether he is Native American or Native Mexican is moot. Even a DNA sample wouldn't tell us much.
13777  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Harmonica: Native American or Mexican on: June 24, 2004, 01:32:31 AM
What features distinguish a native American from a native Mexican? Aren't they racially identical?
13778  General Information / General Discussion / Remastered Morricone Soundtracks on: June 18, 2004, 03:41:37 AM
I'd like to know if anyone has anything to say about the recent remasters of the GBU and OUATITW soundtracks. Certainly the extra tracks are welcome (10 new ones for GBU, and 7 for West), but I'm interested in hearing from anyone who thinks the sound quality of the old tracks have been improved on these new 2004 releases. Thanks.
13779  General Information / Trivia Games / Re:Once Upon A Time In The West on: May 12, 2004, 06:27:31 PM
John Landis?
13780  General Information / Sergio Leone News / Re: Everything Concerning: DVDs, Posters, and Other (S)W Merchandise on: April 26, 2004, 11:40:44 PM
Sorry, my understanding is our audio choices are limited to the new 5.1 soundtrack and the old Italian mono. Of course we all want the original English soundtrack as well, but it does not appear that MGM deigned to provide it. Leone fans, make your displeasure heard!
13781  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Inconsistencies: realism on: April 11, 2004, 06:02:02 PM
Also, after Frank staggers forward, the light catches the bullethole in his shirt  and you see a flash of red (which may just be the color of the shirt). This is visible at 149:24.

Finally, after Harmonica has placed his harmonica in Frank's mouth, you can see the bullethole (at 151:08) again as Frank literally bows out of the picture.
13782  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Inconsistencies: realism on: April 09, 2004, 12:56:33 AM
I also checked for the wound that Frayling said was visible on the new DVD transfer. I could not see it on my direct view (CRT) monitor, but later when I screened it through a projector it showed up. Apparently it disappears when the image is too dark.
13783  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:the better western on: March 24, 2004, 08:16:37 PM
How about this: GBU is the best Western, and OUATITW is the best Meta-Western. Will that keep everyone happy?
13784  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:Italian vs. English Title on: March 10, 2004, 06:09:59 PM
Okay, I was hoping some Italian speakers would weigh in here. Anyway, does anybody at all happen to know how "il bruto" and "il cattivo" relate to each other? Is it possible that there is a spectrum being crossed in the Italian title? That is, could "il cattivo" be more extreme than "il bruto"?
That's the way it seems to work in the English title, where the sequence is reversed ("That was an ugly scene, man" for example, seems to be stronger than "That was a bad scene, man"). In Italian, is "bad" more intense than "ugly"?
13785  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:Italian vs. English Title on: March 09, 2004, 10:08:11 PM
uh.....topic? Couldn't we talk about that?
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