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Web Site Announcements / LOGING ON PROBLEMS?
« on: January 22, 2005, 04:32:35 AM »
Anybody else come across this: Every time I log on I am confronted by Leone site dated Jan 11th? I can only update when I hit one of the forums! Anybody else.....or is it just me?  :'(

Sergio Leone News / LEONE/CANADA
« on: January 16, 2005, 01:48:07 PM »

Jan. 14, 2005. 01:00 AM
Last western stand was Sergio Leone's
Made mark with Fistful of Dollars Also revived career of Clint Eastwood


In more than one sense, the western crossed its final frontier in the 1960s.

Eight of the 10 top-rated prime time American network programs were westerns at the time John F. Kennedy proclaimed his New Frontier" in 1960, and no movie star rode that bronco of a decade taller than the middle-aged and red-necked cowboy superstar, John Wayne.

But that was pretty much over by the time Sam Peckinpah's bloody sunset western The Wild Bunch splattered screens in 1969. Within the next decade, western iconic would disperse like blown tumbleweeds through other forms: Urban cop movies, outer space movies, existential road movies and — most successfully and self-destructively of all — blockbuster parody takedowns like Blazing Saddles.

But influential as Vietnam, civil rights, TV, counterculture politics and aging cowboy stars were to the western's demise, there was also Sergio Leone. Arguably the form's last essential director (along with Peckinpah), this son of an Italian silent-movie pioneer (who had directed a western, called La Vampira Indiana, as far back as 1913) was also one of its most skilled assassins.

By the time Leone had had his way with the west, there was little left save dust, wind, corpses and the lonesome wail of an Ennio Morricone harmonica.

Leone came to westerns after an apprenticeship working on pepla, the cycle of Italian-made sword-and-sandal epics that thrived through the late 1950s.

From these, one assumes he learned the lessons of epic scale, international marketing, creative violence and elementary mythical storytelling — all things that would stand him in good stead when he finally convinced reluctant backers to support an uncredited remake of Akira Kurosawa's amoral samurai story Yojimbo (itself inspired by Dashiell Hammett's Red Harvest) as an Italian movie to be shot in Spain starring a nearly unknown American TV-western star named Clint Eastwood. (Leone had wanted Henry Fonda, James Coburn and Charles Bronson, in that order, but Eastwood was the only American he could afford. By the end, he'd have them all.)

He called it A Fistful of Dollars. In the next decade, Leone would make only four more so-called spaghetti westerns — For a Few Dollars More, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Once Upon a Time in the West and Duck, You Sucker (a.k..a A Fistful of Dynamite) — but their pop cultural impact had the ballistic force of the arsenal hidden under Eastwood's greasy poncho.

They also re-invigorated the then-flaccid TV career of Rawhide's Eastwood, who became the century's last born-on-a-saddle movie star.

Bearing traces of opera, comic books, the director's beloved childhood puppet shows and echoes of contemporary radical politics, Leone's westerns re-imagined the frontier as a desert of scorched morality, corporate rapaciousness and anti-heroic individualism.

Even Morricone's soundtracks, which were every bit as abstract as the movies themselves, described a landscape of hard-edged basic elements: harmonicas, chants, grunts, whistles and jangling guitar chords.

If this was the west, it was not the west of possibilities, conquest or possibilities as vast and immutable as John Ford's Monument Valley (where Leone shot Once Upon a Time in the West). This was the end of the line; the train stopped for good.

Cinematheque Ontario's Sergio Leone retrospective begins tonight with a screening of A Fistful of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More.

Once Upon a Time in the West screens tomorrow evening following a lecture by Bart Testa of the University of Toronto Cinema Studies department.

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly will be shown on January 18, Duck, You Sucker on the 19th, and Once Upon a Time in America on Jan. 27.

Off-Topic Discussion / BRONSON/FONDA.....
« on: January 02, 2005, 09:07:12 PM »
Just watched BRONSON and FONDA in Battle of the Bulge (1965). A not-too-bad war movie. It was interesting to watch them together in quite a few scenes.

Off-Topic Discussion / HAPPY XMAS................
« on: December 23, 2004, 01:44:00 PM »
Happy Christmas, folks! Catch up with you after the long haul!  :)

General Discussion / LEE VAN CLEEF.
« on: December 16, 2004, 02:20:02 PM »
Thursday, 16 December, 2004

~ On This Day ~

1989: Lee Van Cleef dies, Oxnard, California, USA.

Sadly missed!

General Discussion / You learn something new everyday!
« on: December 16, 2004, 02:14:51 PM »
Never heard about this. Came across it by accident. Gives a whole new meaning to "SOMETHING TO DO WITH DEATH". Sad.

Biography for
Al Mulock.

He committed suicide on the set of his last movie C'era una volta il West (1968) by jumping from a hotel, on location in Guadix, Spain. One of the film's screenwriters Mickey Knox and production manager Claudio Mancini were in a hotel room when they saw his body pass their window. Mancini put Mulock in his car to drive him to the hospital. Knox claimed in an interview that before that, director Sergio Leone said to Mancini "get the costume, we need the costume". Mulock was wearing the costume he wore in the movie when he jumped.

Trivia Games / WHICH ONE WOULD YOU....?
« on: December 15, 2004, 01:07:58 PM »
To put a spin on the classic BBC RADIO 4 show, DESERT ISLAND DISC'S.....You end up on an island and are given a choice.....You can have a DVD player n' TV (and electricity) AND the complete works of SERGIO LEONE! THE CATCH IS THIS.....You have to leave out ONE of his movies. THE QUESTION IS THIS.....which one would you leave out.....and WHY?    ???

Off-Topic Discussion / OBSCURE SPAGHETTI SITE!
« on: December 02, 2004, 02:07:48 AM »
Check this out fer' spaghetti's that are VERY hard to find. ;)

Off-Topic Discussion / TRAILERS!
« on: November 27, 2004, 11:04:58 AM »
Just mulling over a pint of the quare stuff with a buddy. The conversation got around to trailers! He brought up the subject as follows: "What trailer, sold you a movie, you went to see it, and it turned out that the trailer was better than the movie?" In his opinion the worst culprit was "THE BETSY". The cast of this "masterpiece" was LAURENCE OLIVIER, ROBERT DUVALL, TOMMY LEE JONES, KATHERINE ROSS, JOSEPH WISEMAN....etc.
I had to think long and hard because I've seen so many movies where the trailer was better. But this one has always stuck in my mind: "MACKENNAS GOLD"! The trailer was STUNNING!!! A rootin', tootin' way out west western starring PECK, ELI WALLACH, EDWARD G. ROBINSON, KEENAN WYNN, LEE J. COBB....and not forgetting, TELLY SAVALAS, OMAR SHARIF, BURGESS MEREDITH and.....JULIE NEWMAR swimming in the nip!
Ah, has so much promise ever led to so much disapointment!!!


Anybody got a "FAV" trailer that was better than the movie. :o

Sergio Leone News / ITV 3.
« on: November 20, 2004, 02:28:25 PM »
Anybody catch this new station? They give over Sunday nights to classic westerns. It's bin' running for two weeks. First one they showed was THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN! Second, A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS! And third, tomorrow night is, FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE! Ah, Monday mornings don't seem so blue anymore! Now, if they could just see themselves clear to show a LASH La RUE season....I can but dream!

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / IS THIS TRUE?
« on: November 20, 2004, 11:35:36 AM »
A pal of mine just let me in on this:
At the beginning, when the Bad shoots the farmer, he falls down on his stomach. When the farmer's wife sees him dead, he's on his back.
Never noticed it and can't check it as DVD machine just upped n' died. Anybody spot it?

Other Films / Vendo cara la pelle aka I'll Sell My Skin Dearly (1968)
« on: November 19, 2004, 12:01:36 PM »
Came across this review of a Spaghetti Western. Never heard of it, just wondering if anybody else has?

I'LL SELL MY SKIN DEARLY (1968) - Letterboxed print. An obscure but excellent Spaghetti western starring American Mike Marshall as a simple man whose dreams are crushed when his family is massacred. He simply becomes a passionless killing machine who hunts down those responsible for their deaths. What a shame director Ettore Fizarotti never made another western as this one is quite good and the photography by future director Stelvio Massi is an added bonus.

Off-Topic Discussion / List's and Permutation's of.....
« on: November 15, 2004, 01:27:10 AM »
As we seem to find ourselves in the season of the LIST, best of.....worst of.....longest.....shortest.....etc. I thought I would add one more (just for the craic).
My all time favorite TWO-PERSON screen exchange is the following:

The Big Sleep
1946, MGM,
Directed by Howard Hawks
Screenplay by William Faulkner:

I'm very grateful to you, Mr. Marlowe. I'm very glad it's all over. Tell me, uh, what do you usually do when you're not

Mm. Play the horses, fool around.

No women?

Well, I'm generally working on something most of the time.

Would that be stressed to include me?

I like you. I told you that before.

I liked hearing you say it.


But you didn't do much about it.

Neither did you.

Well, speaking of horses, I like to play them myself. But I'd
like to see them work out a little first to see if they are front
runners or come from behind, find out what's their whole card is,
what makes them running.

Find out mine?

I think so.

Go ahead.

I'd say you don't like to be rated. You'd like to get out in
front, open up a lead, take a little breather in the backstretch
and, and come home free.

You don't like to be rated yourself.

I haven't met anyone yet who could do it. Any suggestions?

Well, I can't tell till I've seen you over distance of ground.
You got a touch of class but...I don't know how, how far you can

That depends on who's on the saddle. ..., Marlowe. I like the way
you work. In case you don't know, if you're doing all right.

There's one thing I can't figure out.

What makes me run?

Uh huh.[/i

And the way they play it.....GOOSEBUMPS EVERY TIME![/

What is yours? This topic includes any director/year/genre etc.....

« on: November 08, 2004, 06:42:40 PM »
This might be too easy but from which SPAGHETTI is the following dialouge taken from?
"How did you get down from that cross?"
"It was Marsha!"
"She pulled out the nail?"
"No.....she ate my hand!"

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