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31  Films of Sergio Leone / A Fistful of Dollars / Re:Does Joe have a love intrest in the girl on: December 26, 2002, 09:56:14 PM
i have to agree with cigar joe. altough, i will say, he sure wants a piece of her in the beginning. at first he sees her as just another whore but when he gets the full picture he wants to help (if the opportunity permits). i like this take because he is not a hero, rather an anti-hero after his own good and he knows he can't change this.
to add to this, leone extensively spoke about freud. i speculate this senario is a freudian expression, if you will. marisol is an expression of his mother and the child is him, before he became jaded. maybe if someone else had stepped in and helped his mother, he would have a family, live a 'normal' life and have children of his own. i think he feels some type of redemption through helping them-living a happy life vicariously through their happiness or the opportunity to life happily together.
32  General Information / Sergio Leone News / Re:News on DVD's? on: December 26, 2002, 09:45:35 PM
it is a bit confusing. region 1 is us, canada and i think mexico (although i have never had to verify this). other regions are of a different format. the long and the short of it, if your a gringo and want to play it safe, buy region 1 unless you have the equipment to play milti-region DVDs (for example PS2).

I know there are many of you who are better qualitfied to answer this question so i'll let the pros take a more lengthy explination.
33  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re:Other Favorite Non Spaghetti Westerns on: December 24, 2002, 12:53:21 PM
cigar joe,
you're my compadre. i think you and found the new board at the same time. you have great insights and i trust your advice. i'm going to find it this weekend.

by the way, i'm in trouble... (as mentioned before) i am looking high and low for a widescreen version of THEY CALL ME TRINITY (which is also one of my favorite sw). does anyone know if there is a widescreen dvd out there in region 1. i guess if it is another region that's ok because i have PS2.
34  General Information / General Discussion / Re:the message board on: December 24, 2002, 12:45:14 PM
it is a great board and if you scoll down on the main board, you will see that amazon is the main sponsor and one can make a donation to support this board. also we can shop at amazon, from this link. i need to make a donation and will do so at the beginning of the new year. i love this forum!
35  General Information / General Discussion / Re:The Good The Bad The Ugly - Overrated? (sorry post is a bit long) on: December 24, 2002, 12:42:21 PM
i can't agree with you but you are right about something, FAFDM is a great film. excellent in fact!
36  General Information / General Discussion / Re:Native Americans on: December 23, 2002, 08:53:27 PM
i agree. i guess there is something positive that has come from public pressure to be P.C. but i have to say, the native american indians deserve so much more. i have done some work with them (individuals really but it's a start) trying to help them see that receiving a government 'settlement' each month will do nothing to improve their self respect. they are such a beautiful people. it is too bad so many of them are so poor as you said!
37  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Other favorites on: December 23, 2002, 02:12:01 PM
Quentin Tarantino is good too. I wish he'd make more films though  Undecided

CAL, good news for you. Tarantino is finishing his fourth film as we speak. A friend say the trailer. You will be happy to know, it is going to be intense. A modern-day crouching tiger film and I guess Uma is super bad in this one. An other friend of mine works a Raleigh Studios in Manhattan Beach, where Tarantino did most of the filmming and he says the sets are great and the acrobatics are super cool. I hope this gives you a bit of hope!
38  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / leone breaks a classic western rule... on: December 23, 2002, 02:04:15 PM
i watched OUTW this weekend. i noticed something i've never seen (at least not that i recall). during the train station/gunfight, Harmonica kills the three gunfighter but not before one of them hits him. apparently this is more than a flesh wound because harmonica falls to the ground and passes out.
again, leone plays, bends and in this case, breaks, a paramount genre's 'rule'-the good guy is IMMORTAL. right from the beginning, the hero (or anti-hero) falls and is made mortal. it is very refreshing and gives life to what some critics have said is a dead genre. just wanted to know if you guys thought.
39  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Was Harmonica on the train or not? on: December 23, 2002, 01:30:07 PM
i rewatched the scene this past saturday, because of your queston. i have to agree with shobary and this is why. leone, in his shot sequence, clearly shows how far away each man is from the other. finally as the train begins to part, leone frames a shot of the three coming together after the leader moves towards the horses. then Harmonica appears and he speaks about the horses... he doesn't have to be too smart to realize if there isn't a forth horse, it means they have don't want this guy alive. i'm sure he was on the train, considering this fact and knew he was going to have to kill these guys. the only way it was going to happen was if they would make their ways back to the horses (they were at the same hitch).  
40  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Final Duel Scene on: December 23, 2002, 01:12:40 PM
well said.

now i have to go home and note more closely this progression.  
41  General Information / General Discussion / Re:THE BEST SERGIO LEONE FILM... on: December 23, 2002, 12:48:54 PM
i voted and i have to say, GBU is the masterpiece. the structure, character development (particularly tuco), pacing, mise en scene, music and plot are the best i've seen. this is an exceptional movie!
42  General Information / General Discussion / Re:What is your favorite Film? on: December 23, 2002, 12:46:09 PM
leone stripped away the polish and bright lights of the classic hollywood western and what was left was the beauty, corseness and a simplistic struggle to kill or be killed-the birth of sw.
I can hardly stand watching most westerns now.

right on!
 
43  General Information / General Discussion / Re:Native Americans on: December 23, 2002, 12:39:18 PM
i agree, cigar. i think in most films, SW and otherwise, indians are not presented in the noblest of ways. i have come in contact with several indians that are extremely spiritual and enlightened and they seem to have a special understanding of nature that the white man doesn't have. i admire that a great deal. sorry to say, too many of the indians abuse alcohol and other substances and have lost hope for a better world. it is sad to see so many of them 'locked' up on the reservations at what seems more like a human zoo than their land and home!
44  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Final Duel Scene on: December 19, 2002, 07:26:02 PM
During my four years at film school, I couldn't believe we never once watched a Leone film. We never even discussed him as an important director. Nevertheless, countless well-respected directors often name Leone as one of their influences.
My last year, I wrote a 40 page paper on GBU(we were only required to write 15 pages). My professor and mentor, Dean Duncan, reviewed the film and agreed that Leone had been over looked.
CAL you are right on! Leone understood so well the art of mise en scene, camera placement and angle as well as montage. Nevertheless, I don't think he allowed himself to become subject to the technical rather he mastered them so that multi-themes, ideas and emotions could be expressed on multi-levels. I think Leone has to be in my top-ten list of most influential and important directors.
Hopefully, more people will see the value of his films and contributions to cinema.
45  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:The best movie ever made... on: December 19, 2002, 07:14:37 PM
I agree with CAL. GBU touches many more emotional strings for me. In my opinion, I think itís score is the greatest of all time. I think OUTW become too encumbered by Claudia Cardinaleís character as well as the Railroad Baron. I prefer the mono a mono sensibility of GBU. Lastly, GBUís pacing works much better. This is not to say, OUTW is not great! I love it and canít wait for itís DVD release.
Although I love Clint Eastwood, I think Bronson was perfect as Harmonica. That role almost needed a smaller actor I think. Besides, I think Eastwood is too WASPy for that role.
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