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1  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Looking for "Once upon..." Wallpapers on: March 12, 2003, 05:53:19 AM
I can make the wallpaper for you.  Please let me know the following:

1. What pictures you desire (be specific)
2. What size (ex. 1024x768)
3. What format (jpg or bmp)

Please e-mail personally.

I'll rescan the images at a much higher resolution.

Stephen Pelletier
www.onceuponatimeinamerica.com





Hi there!

I know this site and I couldn't find a great picture that I can use as a wallpaper.
I'm looking escpecially for the great cover-artwork in a good resolution...

MP
2  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Is Leone the ticket-seller or not? on: March 08, 2003, 09:44:39 PM
It may be quite possible because the individual wasn't a member of SAG (at the time of release) that prevented him from being credited.

In related news, the script that I have (1982/David Mills) doesn't even have that ticket master scene.  Rather than a train ride, Noodles gets a lift from a trucker.  

Stephen Pelletier


Like I said, I never thought it looked lke him either.  I would have thought being shot in the '80's and some
shot in the USA under some sort of SAG rules that
there would be more thorough cast listing.
3  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Question about the Script on: March 06, 2003, 08:06:42 PM
I have a monster copy of the OUATIA script (1982/David Mills Version) and I am in the process of scanning it (PDF) to post on the website and I am curious if I would get any "grief" from the legal boys in doing so.

There are many sites, such as Drews Script-o-rama, that post scripts, even the newest releases and they seem to get away with it, so I was wondering if you guys could provide me some feedback.

I believe the script would be a nice edition to the site.

Stephen Pelletier
4  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Is Leone the ticket-seller or not? on: March 06, 2003, 05:20:38 PM
It just dawned on me that the "news-stand man" is more than likely the man who had his new-stand set on fire by the boys.

Stephen


Stephen, do you have the BFI Modern Classics book  on OUATIA by Adrian Martin? There's a fairly extensive credit list in there - the longest I've seen - by Julian Grainger and  Markku Salmi. The ticket-seller is not mentioned, but there is a credit for a "News-stand man".
Can you think of a News-stand man in the movie, or do you think this possibly may refer to the ticket-seller?
Both a ticket-seller and a News-stand man work in kiosks don't they? So maybe the actual role of the ticket-seller in the movie may have been mistranscribed as "News-stand man." It's a long shot, but worth a thought.
The News-stand man is played by Alexander Godfrey.
5  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Is Leone the ticket-seller or not? on: March 06, 2003, 05:17:25 PM
Halis,

Yes, I do have the book and will look at it tonight.
The "news-stand man" may be key to unlock the mystery.

Stephen Pelletier


Stephen, do you have the BFI Modern Classics book  on OUATIA by Adrian Martin? There's a fairly extensive credit list in there - the longest I've seen - by Julian Grainger and  Markku Salmi. The ticket-seller is not mentioned, but there is a credit for a "News-stand man".
Can you think of a News-stand man in the movie, or do you think this possibly may refer to the ticket-seller?
Both a ticket-seller and a News-stand man work in kiosks don't they? So maybe the actual role of the ticket-seller in the movie may have been mistranscribed as "News-stand man." It's a long shot, but worth a thought.
The News-stand man is played by Alexander Godfrey.
6  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Is Leone the ticket-seller or not? on: March 06, 2003, 01:04:10 PM
All,

I whipped out the DVD and did a bunch of captures and after alot of cutting, pasting and zooming it looks more and more like the Ticket Master may not be Sergio Leone.

What I found to be a surprising coincidence is that the both the Ticket Master and Leone have a small mole on the right side of the nose, but not in the exact same location.

What bothers me is why this individual wasn't credited.

I will be sending inquiries to Tribeca (Robert De Niro) and New Regency (Arnon Milchan) and see if they can reply with an answer, although I probably have a better chance of getting killed in a terrorist attack.

Stephen "Prat" Pelletier




7  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Is Leone the ticket-seller or not? on: March 05, 2003, 05:28:14 PM
Dear Llama,

You may be right, but opinions are like assholes.

I believe this mystery can be solved from a response from the production company.

I should remind you that grandiloquence is another well-known tactic of the man whose credibility is crumbling fast.  That's you, my ruminant mammal.

The Pugilist


The concrete facts that show that Leone does not play the ticket collector are clearly evident in the comparison photographs that are available for everyone to see on this site.

1. The ticket collector has a smaller nose then Sergio. Make-up artists are capable of making noses bigger, but you need plastic surgeons to make them smaller.
Sergio's nose also hooks down over his upper lip, whereas the ticket collector's rounds off above the upper lip

2. The ticket collector's lips are thinner and wider than Sergio's.

3. The ticket collector's face is square and vertical, whereas Leone's has a distinct slope forwards from the forehead down, and is longer.

4. The ticket collector has a much more regular build than Sergio, who was getting seriously heavy at the time, as would be evident from examining any of the full-length shots taken on the set of OUATIA.

I cannot understand how anyone could possibly see those comparison photographs of Sergio on set and the ticket collector and believe that they are one and the same person.

Now what's your "concrete evidence" ? So far it seems to consist of you saying "Sergio Leone is, in fact,  the ticket agent at the counter", and "I can assure you that it IS Sergio Leone." Plus you being nasty to me because I disagree with you.

I notice you did not reply to shorty larsen, who also raised questions about the relative build of the two people in question, and asked:"Stephen, do you agree that the actor who plays the ticket saler has nothing to do, physically, with Sergio Leone? Sergio was heavier (much heavier) than that actor."
You probably didn't reply, because shorty's assertion is inarguable - Sergio WAS much heavier than that actor.

By the way, my name is not Llama, as you clearly know. My name is Halis.
Any more rudeness from you, and the gloves are off.

I should remind you that rudeness is another well-known tactic of the man whose credibility is crumbling fast. That's you.



8  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Is Leone the ticket-seller or not? on: March 05, 2003, 12:55:02 PM
Dear Llama,

Since you have failed to provide any concrete facts to disprove the web-widely accepted fact, I am in the process of trying to get an answer from the production company.  

If, or when I receive a reply, I will scan the reponse and post it.

Stephen Pelletier



Accusations of pomposity and arrogance are no defense against the truth, Stephen.  They are usually the last defense of someone who is defending an untenable position.

But let's try it in a different way then:

I regret to inform you that Sergio Leone does not play the ticket collector in OUATIA.

Your humble and obedient savant, Halis.


9  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Stephen the press kit is wrong! Bridge Controversy Solved. on: March 03, 2003, 05:09:53 PM
Yes, I did.

I look forward to visiting the bridges in the spring.



Well after you sent me those stills I realize that both bridges are featured in the film which I never payed attention to or noticed before. Did you notice the bottom right hand corner of the Manhattan bridge page has almost the identical scene from the press kit?
10  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Is Leone the ticket-seller or not? on: March 03, 2003, 05:08:09 PM
It's unfortunate that you feel the way you do, but I stand by my statement.

If you're trying to sway public opinion, I suggest losing the pompous, arrogant atitude.

Stephen Pelletier
www.onceuponatimeinamerica.com


Stephen Pellettier is wrong to state that Sergio Leone plays the ticket collector in OUATIA.
Clearly, they are two completely different people of vastly different build and facial appearance.
As Webmaster of the OUATIA website, he really should get his facts right and not perpetuate these ridiculous myths.

At least Professor Christopher Frayling had the good grace to admit he was wrong regarding the similar canard that Sergio Leone plays a Hotel Clerk in CEMETERY WITHOUT CROSSES. Professor Frayling admitted that his mistake was made by viewing a very poor duped copy of the film, after listening to many so-far-insubstantiated stories about Leone playing the role.


So to make it clear: Sergio Leone does not play the Ticket Collector in any released version of OUATIA. Nor does he play the Hotel Clerk in any released version of CEMETERY WITHOUT CROSSES. The latter is played Chris Huerta. It would be interesting to find out who really plays the former.
11  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Stephen the press kit is wrong! Bridge Controversy Solved. on: March 02, 2003, 07:09:44 AM
They look very similar, but it does appear to be the Manhattan Bridge.  

My brother and I will be visiting the location(s) in the Spring.

I'll fire off an email for one of the actors and see if he remembers the exact location.

Stephen Pelletier
www.onceuponatimeinamerica.com




I'm orriginally a native New Yorker, and I let you slide on the minor controversy we had about the bridge in OUTIA, the press kit is definitely wrong! Its the Manhattan Bridge in the movie not the Williamsburg! Cool

From your web site:
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3wbtf/bk-94.jpg

Here is the proof check out the links below:

Manhattan Bridge
http://www.wirednewyork.com/bridges/manhattan_bridge/default.htm


Williamsburg Bridge (completely different  latice work towers)
http://www.inventionfactory.com/history/RHAbridg/wb.html
12  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re:DVD Version of OUTIA Available in Europe Now on: February 27, 2003, 01:22:14 PM
In the 227 version, she is shot twice.  I am not aware of any other version where she is shot more than twice.

The 227 min. version I am referencing is the version shown at the NY Film Festival, which was released on laser disc by Warner Bros, in the US.

Stephen Pelletier
www.onceuponatimeinamerica.com



Jonbr,

In the opening scene, where Eve is shot on the bed, how many gunshots are fired? In the standard U.S. "long" version, there's only one shot. But in the version screened at festivals there are five or six shots,  knocking her body around several times with their impacts.

I'd like to know how many are in this scene in the DVD you bought.
13  General Information / Film Locations / Re:Moe's Bar NYC location on: February 19, 2003, 05:35:33 AM
It's the Williamsburg Bridge.

The web-site should be up.  Minor redirect error on my part.

Stephen Pelletier
14  General Information / Film Locations / Re:Moe's Bar NYC location on: February 19, 2003, 05:33:41 AM
If you're ever headed in that area, I wouldn't mind joining you.

Stephen Pelletier
15  General Information / Film Locations / Re:Moe's Bar NYC location - NO Fat Moe's on: February 18, 2003, 10:20:59 PM
The (1920's) Lower East Side locations were the Williamsburg Bridge on 8th Avenue South at Bedford Avenue, in Brooklyn.

Fat Moe's Bar was a set meticulously reproduced in Rome, modeled after the Lower East Side neighborhood.

The following is an exact quote from the movie production press kit:

"You could only have shot these scenes in New York," asserts Leone. But every inch of setting had to be measured and recorded so that it could be rebuilt for additional shooting at Pietralata, about 10 miles outside Rome, where the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn rose out of the anonymity of the Roman countryside, including two blocks of storefronts, an alleyway, and uninterrupted views down streets typical of the period, complete with fire hydrants, smoking water-main lids, even period mailboxes. Along the way, shop windows heralded such establishments as "Shaprio's Used Clothes," "Altman's Luggage" and the eatery known as "Fat Moe's."

Somebody prove me wrong and I'll buy the first 5 rounds.

Stephen Pelletier
www.onceuponatimeinamerica.com


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