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136  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: True Grit (1969) on: January 04, 2017, 09:50:46 AM
I haven't seen either of the True Grit movies yet. Gonna watch the latest one very soon. Afro
137  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: The Magnificent Seven (1960) on: January 04, 2017, 09:49:47 AM
Thanx for the comments. I wish i knew about this forum years ago. Gonna have a great time discussing movies here... Afro
138  Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: The Magnificent Seven (1960) on: January 04, 2017, 05:38:34 AM
To be perfectly honest. . . I'm not that big a fan of this movie.  IMO, it's more of a collection to good-to-great scenes than a great movie.  The cast is spectacular, but the only characters I really liked were Vaughn, Coburn, and Wallach. 

I personally think that a much better film of this type is "The Professionals".  Maybe it's because there's no weenie newcomer; just Lee Marvin, Woody Strode, Burt Lancaster, and Robert Ryan, older professionals who don't whine but kick ass and take names.  Those guys are real men's men, working for money and not pretending to work for anything else.  (Plus the gunfights were better and Claudia was in the film. Grin) It's more of a personal preference than anything else, to be sure.  Plus the screenplay was better.  I can name off the top of my head maybe five or six lines from "The Magnificent Seven", and probably twice that from "The Professionals".  Some particular favorites of mine:

"Do I have to kill you to prove I like you?"

"I wouldn't do that!  My friend would die of a terrible headache - and so would you!"

Dullworth: "Hey Chiquita!  How's your love life!"
Chiquita: "Terrific!  You want some?"
Dullworth: "Do you EVER say no?"
Chiquita: "Never!"
Dullworth: "Anybody?"
Chiquita: "EVERYbody!" Grin  Kiss

And the classic:
Fardan: "So what's on your mind besides 100-proof women, 90-proof whiskey and 14-karat gold?"
Dullworth: "Amigo. . . you just wrote my epitaph!"

I will not deny the importance or influence of "The Magnificent Seven", and I am in no way saying it's a bad film.  I just can't see it as being one of the greatest Westerns of all time.

Hi folks. My very first post here.  Let me say that Westerns are my favorite movie genre.  At one time,  gangster movies were my favorite, but Westerns having taking over the number 1 spot for me.   Now, my personal opinion about this movie, the magnificent Seven done in 1960.  Like the poster above, i think this is movie is overrated. I saw it for the first time about 6 months ago.  The good things that i liked about the movie were the script,  the cast, and the cinematography was ok.  The major flaw with the movie was the gunfights themselves.  The gunfights were rated E for everyone.  It was like you have this big movie, with this big cast, and for the grand finale, they all come out with  pop guns.

Sam Peckinpah himself said that he made the Wild Bunch's fight scenes brutal in response to the lackluster effort in the Magnificent Seven.  You had this great build up, only to be let down.  In a ironic twist, the 2016 remake was the very opposite. It had what i called a hurried, lackluster buildup,  followed by a over the top gunfight.  I will continue to watch both films because neither were bad, they both just left what could've been masterpiece material, on the cutting room floor...
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