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1  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: October 04, 2017, 12:39:30 PM
I don't have the Kino but a friend who does tells me of a music track mistake in the desert scene when Blondie Collapses and Tuco dismounts. The long chord in the Italian print is in the Kino Theatrical cut which it shouldn't be.

I have compared a few versions and found that the chord starts when Tuco dismounts in my Italian TV version and in the 2004 Extended cut it starts on the first close up of Blondie's face. It sounds different as well. The Italian version is more of a drone sound and the 2004 has a higher 'tension' pitch.
2  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: September 18, 2017, 12:51:38 PM
Picture quality wise, how does the Laserdisc compare to the Mondo.
3  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: September 01, 2017, 12:30:00 PM
ideally a capture of the VHS would be great. If that's not a possibility then I'd like to confirm that it comes from the same source as the CBS/Fox LD. (Although that crude cut is probably enough verification). I can send you a list of distinguishing features of the CBS/Fox LD that he could look for on the Intervision VHS.

I'll see if he can get a capture of the crude cut and if you send the list to me I will ask him to compare it.
4  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: September 01, 2017, 07:26:05 AM
Le Bon, do you happen to have a copy of the Intervision VHS?


I don't have a copy. A friend I have been emailing has it. I can ask him if there's anything you want to know about it.
5  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: August 29, 2017, 02:47:13 AM

Yes that's the one.
6  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: August 27, 2017, 03:44:42 AM
The Italian RAI TV broadcast presents the Italian home release cut (to be expected) yet English opening credits are used (very unexpected). Huh

It appears the TV prints were cobbled together using whatever elements were available/provided. Some of the early home release versions (VHS and LD) were sourced from these elements as well. For example, the 1990 MGM laserdisc had Italian onscreen titles yet it was the International Cut. There is an 80's Warner VHS that had Italian onscreen titles when the 3 characters were introduced but used English titles at the end. The 80s CBS LD used an Italian print that was crudely edited to conform to the International Cut. It has a crude cut where the first few seconds of the "6 is the perfect number" scene is visible before it cuts to Tuco in the boxcar, presumably to allow for the music to play to its entirety as the train leaves the station. These are some examples off the top of my head.


That's interesting about the CBS LD. In the UK an early VHS by Intervision had the same crude cut you mentioned.
7  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: August 25, 2017, 04:32:52 AM
Yes, the English cut had those three titles in English. Each international territory was given virtually the same print with the credit sequence and those titles as separate elements. Interestingly, the length of those titles varies depending on how the distributor decided to splice them in..the Spanish DVD for instance has the longest tuco intro title out of all the cuts, even the Italian. It has about a second more footage at the beginning of the shot resulting in the action of tuco running towards the window being repeated.


How did the UK TV versions come to have them in Italian?
They screened the Int cut not the UK cinema one which had the gunsmith and Van Cleef and the prison camp commandant scenes cut out.
8  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: August 24, 2017, 02:22:45 PM
Did the original 1967 theatrical cut have the three characters intertitles (Good, Bad Ugly) that come up on their intro and exit scenes, in English?
When I first saw the film which was on UK TV in 1976, they were in Italian.
9  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: August 09, 2017, 06:56:07 AM
It doesn't look good.  Hearing there are framing problems with the extras ported over from the extended edition  Sad
10  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: August 07, 2017, 04:03:21 PM
First review here...

http://www.mondo-digital.com/goodbad.html
11  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: July 16, 2017, 11:20:18 AM
Does anyone know if the P.E.A. credit under Grimaldi's name will be restored?

No its not restored.
12  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: "OUATITW: Shot by Shot" by Frayling? on: June 23, 2017, 12:15:46 PM
Release date is now May 2018  Sad
13  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: June 21, 2017, 02:39:38 AM
I wonder what these are? Perhaps some footage of Eastwood or Leone in Italy or press conference, that kind of thing.

- Vignette 1: Uno, Due, Tre (0:40)
- Vignette 2: Italian Lunch (0:43)
- Vignette 3: New York Accent (0:09)
- Vignette 4: Gun in Holster (0:58)

14  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017 on: June 20, 2017, 11:53:24 AM
Some new extras are added

Disc 1:
- 4K transfer of the Original U.S. Theatrical Cut Available for the first time in HD
- New Audio Commentary by Film Historian Tim Lucas
- Trailers From Hell with Ernest Dickerson
- Newly Restored 2.0 Mono Audio
- Alternate Scene: The Optical Flip
- Deleted Scene 1: Skeletons in the Desert
- Deleted Scene 2: Extended Torture Scene
- GBU on the: animated behind-the-scenes image gallery
- Promoting GBU: Posters & Lobby Cards animated image gallery
- Sergio Leone Westerns: Original Theatrical Trailers
- Italian Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono
- English DTS-HD MA 5.1 Audio
- Reversible Art

Disc 2:
- 4K transfer of the Extended Cut
- Newly Restored 2.0 Mono Audio
- Audio Commentary by Film Historian Richard Schickel
- Audio Commentary By Noted Cultural Historian Sir Christopher Frayling
- Leone's West: Making Of Documentary (19:55)
- Il Maestro: Ennio Morricone and GBU Featurette Part 1 (7:48)
- Il Maestro: Ennio Morricone and GBU Featurette Part 2 (12:26)
- The Leone Style: On Sergio Leone Featurette (23:48)
- The Man Who Lost The Civil War: Civil War Documentary (14:24)
- Reconstruction GBU (11:09)
- Deleted Scene 1: Extended Tuco Torture scene (7:15)
- Deleted Scene 2: The Socorro Sequence - A Reconstruction (3:02)
- Vignette 1: Uno, Due, Tre (0:40)
- Vignette 2: Italian Lunch (0:43)
- Vignette 3: New York Accent (0:09)
- Vignette 4: Gun in Holster (0:58)
- Original U.S. Theatrical Trailer
- Original French Theatrical Trailer
- English DTS-HD MA 5.1 Audio
- Italian Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono

 They have listed the flip cut as an extra.  They gave the impression it would be in the theatrical cut before as it should be. We'll just have to wait and see now.
15  Films of Sergio Leone / A Fistful of Dollars / Re: New Kino Lorber FOD DVD/BRD on: June 02, 2017, 05:03:42 AM
I would think KL will address the yellow issue as they are with GBU. It would be strange if they did one but not the other.
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