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Off-Topic Discussion / The Scarlet Hour 1956
« on: May 26, 2018, 06:05:17 PM »
I had to watch this after XhcnoirX posted about it in the Rate the Last Movie You Have Seen thread.  This film IS a surprise.  Director Michael Curtiz did a fantastic job with this.  Let me start off by saying i saw a bad copy of this on Youtube.  Its available at various small retailers online.  Like has been already explained,  Carol Ohmart and Tom Tryon play secret lovers behind the back off Ohmart's husband in the film who also happens to be Tryon's boss in the film.  They overhear a plot to rob a house while out on a secret lover's meetup and decide to ambush the robbers and use the loot to go off and live happily ever after.  Everything is going to plan until Ohmart's husband gets wise to their secret affair.

There are enough turns and twists in this to keep you on your toes.  The acting is first rate. The locations are first rate. My ONLY quibble with the film is that Tryon's part was tailor made for Farley Granger.  This is HIS type of film.  Tryon grimaced through the whole movie. I think he smiled, barely, in only one scene.  Farley would've done a better job with this.   Its still a superb film though and most people probably wouldn't be bothered by his performance. Nat King Cole is a added bonus to this film. Its a underrated must see. I rate this a 8 out of 10...

Off-Topic Discussion / Life of Crime 2013
« on: May 25, 2018, 01:59:49 PM »
I saw this movie a few years back. I don't remember what prompted me to other than the fact i like Tim Robbins and Yasiin Bey, two of the lead actors.  Its a relatively unknown dark comedy directed by Daniel Schechter.  The plot basically surrounds two fumbling criminals who decide to kidnap the wife of a rich real estate tycoon ( Robbins) and put out a ransom for her release. Things change when the husband refuses to pay the ransom because he actually was gonna file for divorce anyway and hook up with his mistress, lol.   I found out recently that the film is based on a novel by Elmore Leonard called " The Switch. "  Whats interesting here is the fact that the two fumbling characters were originally put to screen by Quentin Tarintino in " Jackie Brown".

Overall, the film was unexpectedly entertaining.  It doesn't try to reinvent the wheel or anything, its just a pretty good film to watch.  I'm surprised it hasn't become a underground cult classic yet.  I rate this a 7.5 out of 10...  It can currently be viewed on Amazon Prime...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: May 25, 2018, 12:30:18 PM »
The Scarlet Hour (1956): Carol Ohmart and lover Tom Tryon overhear a plan for a jewelry robbery, and decide to rob the robbers. Ohmart's husband James Gregory finds out about the love affair tho, messing things up big time. Directed by Michael Curtiz ('Casablanca', 'Mildred Pierce') this was a surprise, a 40s noir made in 1956. Good shit. 8/10

The plot sounds similar to Kubrick's "The Killing".  Gonna check this out. 

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Niagara (1953)
« on: May 24, 2018, 06:40:01 PM »
I had to check this out after seeing the many comments about it.  I agree with everybody who said this is a gorgeous film to look at.  Its the highlight of the film.  The acting was pretty good. I like Joseph Cotton and had no problem with him here. Monroe was pretty good also.  I think the direction was ok.  My problem was the plot itself.  As has been pointed out in various posts, there were things that didn't make sense.  Why would Rose wanna do away with George when all she had to do was just divorce him.  The plot didn't make George look crazed enough to stalk her in my opinion. That was the big problem with the whole plot. Yeah, George broke a record. Knocked over a table, but there was nothing that made you THAT afraid of him.

Why did Polly tell the police that George was gonna do his wife in?  I don't recall anything that George said to her that would give her that indication. In fact he said that his wife would just run because she couldn't get involved any further in the scheme she herself had hatched.  If George was thinking that way, why not silence Polly when he had the chance. 

My other problem was Polly herself. Polly kept popping up EVERYWHERE.  When Rose was sneaking a kiss from her lover,  here comes Polly.  When George tries to sneak back to the cabins, he runs into Polly.   When George has stolen the boat and is making his get away, guest who happens to stroll down to the boat and gets in the way. Polly, lol.

Its a great looking film in search of a plot.  I rate it a 7 out of 10...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: May 14, 2018, 06:21:06 PM »
The Spiral Staircase (1945)  EEEEHHH.  I didn't care for this one.  The contrived older woman in the bed with her shenanigans.  You knew who the bad guy was gonna end up being.  The whole thing was kinda silly.  The cinematography was pretty good. Other than that...  5 out of 10.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: My trip to Sedona Arizona
« on: May 14, 2018, 05:59:27 PM »
Yes, Monument Valley at this link:

Monument Valley Video here:

Death Valley Video here:

Spectacular!!!  Those are fabulous.  That was great how you presented those. 
Is it not amazing that even today, those locations are that wild, rugged and yet beautiful at the same time? 
These are truly locations that one has to see to believe. Just spectacular.  Thanx... :)

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: My trip to Sedona Arizona
« on: May 14, 2018, 01:53:03 PM »
I felt the same way when I was at The Grand Canyon, in Monument Valley and then Death Valley and Lonepine, last summer. The Southwest is very cool.

Did you get any pics?  I bet that was beautiful also.  You experienced what i did. You have to see it to believe it.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: My trip to Sedona Arizona
« on: May 14, 2018, 09:54:15 AM »
Terrific pics!

I saw the other day a picture from a girl I knew who was in Sedona a couple of weeks ago. On the picture, she stands somewhere on the big rock at the center of your first pic: they're actually gigantic!

Thanx. :) Pictures cannot convey how huge and beautiful  that terrain is.  You have to see it. I can't wait to get back there.

Off-Topic Discussion / My trip to Sedona Arizona
« on: May 13, 2018, 06:06:23 PM »
Just got back from my trip out west to see relatives in Phoenix.  We decided to go up to Sedona Arizona to do some sight seeing.
 We went up into Oak Creek Canyon and took some pictures of the filming locations of some classic Hollywood Westerns. 
The locations include Red Rock Crossing and Bell Rock. Approximately 50 Westerns were filmed here with some of the highlights being
 " The Last Wagon " with Richard Widmark, " 3:10 to Yuma " with Glenn Ford and Van Heflin and "Broken Arrow " with James Stewart.

Observations:  Its STUNNINGLY beautiful out there.  You CAN'T take a bad picture.  The terrain is just gorgeous.
 We rode up a old road that was used by film crews and some of the heights scared the beejeebus out of me. 
The movies don't do justice as to how high and steep this terrain is surrounding the valley. 
I garnered very much respect for the film crews and actors who filmed there. 
You got the steep terrain, animals and the high temperatures to deal with. 
The tour guide we had pointed out the exact locations of some of the shots that were used in the films.
The guide also said that most of the valley back during the 50s was barren of most of the trees and foilage that you see.
3:10 to Yuma was filmed on the bottom of the valley as shown in the top picture.  As far as the other locations go
I was particularly stunned by a high rock that Richard Widmark filmed on when he made " The Last Wagon".

Here is a link to the Westerns that were fimed there:

EXTRA BONUS:  We also went to the Mammoth Mines at the Goldfield Gold mines outside Phoenix. 
This is the site of a former real gold mining town that had several mines around it.

Begley is in quite a few Noirs, On Dangerous Ground, The Street with No Name, Backfire, to name a few, and he's great in 12 Angry Men.

I have seen The Street with No Name. I can't remember what role he played. Its been a while.  I got that on my to purchase list because I remembering it being pretty good.  I'm gonna check out On Dangerous Ground and I already have 12 angry men on my watchlist.  On Dangerous Ground looks like its gonna be good.  Thanx...

Hollywood and independents were all still under the (even though it was weakening) Motion Picture Production Code. If you wanted distribution in theaters, you needed their seal. Your only other option would be to take your film on the road, rent halls, sets up tents, label it "educational" and show yourself. You could almost stop these films a minute or two before they actually end and think up your own ending. ;-)

Its obvious the code was still in effect.  Its still a great movie though.  Dave's BIG mistake was including Earle in on the heist, ESPECIALLY after he saw that Earle was gonna bring his issues with him.  It was doomed from the start because of that.  When Johnny asked for the keys to the car and Earle ignored him, THAT was THAT.  He sealed their failure.  Ed Begley was superb in this.  I couldn't remember where i saw him so I looked it up and yes, it was in Hangem High with Clint Eastwood.  He is a great actor.

I can't get over how good this film is. I see why Eddie Muller has it in his top 25.  Great post you made here. :)

I finally saw this. I loved it all the way up till the end.  Everything about this film was fantastic.  Ed Begley and Harry Belafonte were superb in this.  Robert Ryan was great also, but he was very slimy, lol.  He was worst in " Bad Day at Black Rock ", but he wasn't too far off here. I loved the cinematography, the music, the plot, the directing, everything was first rate.  This film should be better known. Thanx to Cigarjoe for posting this.  My only quibble, and its the SAME quibble with a lot of the noirs i have seen, is the ending.  I didn't care for the ending.  The ending WAS setting up to be great, but the director just threw it completely away.  Still, i give this a solid 8 out of 10.  This was a fantastic movie.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Detour (1945)
« on: May 02, 2018, 01:21:13 PM »
I think it was a "B" film always, they weren't interested in making it longer, it was just a little programmer for the bottom half of a bill.

Its  B plus film, lol.  Above B, put below A.   It had a lot going for it and a lot going against it.  It DID feel like a filler movie that if fleshed out, could've been a pretty good film.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Criss Cross (1949)
« on: May 02, 2018, 12:55:19 PM »
In film noir, the guy often gets in trouble BECAUSE of the girl. He feels the need to make a quick buck for the girl. It’s an essential part of the story. It’s not like some Westerns, which force a silly love story into the movie that the movie would have been much better without. In noir, without the girl breaking the guy’s balls, there’s no reason why the guy turns bad. In noir, the main character is generally not a bad guy - he is a decent guy who gets himself into a bad situation, often because of a deadly seductive female.

I have no problem with that.  The problem i had is the plot seemed to drag with them setting up the story between Al and Anna.  I read some reviews of the film that basically said the same thing.  I have to go back and watch it because i fell asleep watching it. I woke up just before the heist.  It was pretty good from there to the end. ill check it out again.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Criss Cross (1949)
« on: May 01, 2018, 06:16:53 PM »
First.  This is a beautifully filmed movie.  The cinematography is just fantastic.  The screenshots that Cigarjoe took speak for that.  As for the plot of the movie.  I'm gonna have to watch it again. The middle part of the movie put me to sleep.  The background story between Steve and Anna was waaaaaaaaaaay tooooo loooooong.  I woke back up when they jumped back into the story of going to rob the armored car.  That part on to the end of the movie was fantastic.  What happened before then, i gotta go back and see because like i said, the love story background dragged the film down.

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