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Other Films / Re: Spaghetti Westerns vs. American Westerns
« on: July 26, 2005, 05:22:32 PM »
To be a star in a genre it means to have your name directly associated with that kind of movie, not just having "starred" in one.

Other Films / Re: Spaghetti Westerns vs. American Westerns
« on: July 26, 2005, 12:34:02 PM »
So Burt Reynolds is a SW star too? And Yul Brinner too?

Other Films / Re: Sabata (1969)
« on: July 26, 2005, 12:32:26 PM »
(the Italian R2 releases had interviews with the director, which are reportedly a hoot to watch, because he's very energetic and talkative and has fond memories of everyone involved.)


I like the 3 movies, quite repetitive but fun to watch nonetheless.

Ennio Morricone / Re: Nicolai steals from friend Ennio
« on: July 26, 2005, 12:09:16 PM »
That of Nicolai being an alias for Ennio is an hypothesis which  had come to my mind and it may be true. But, consequentially we'd have also to admit that Morricone was smart  to recognize and sign as Nicolai the bulk of his lesser work.   

Other Films / Re: Spaghetti Westerns vs. American Westerns
« on: July 26, 2005, 06:50:34 AM »
SW Essentials, Huges lists Garners "A Man Called Sledge" in the 31 he lists.

that doesn't make him a SW star.

Other Films / Re: Best non-leone spaghetti western
« on: July 26, 2005, 06:47:54 AM »
Hi, banjo. No, I disagree. Trintignant doesn't figure out there. This is a SW, don't forget it. You want a more "sensitive" actor, then take, well, James Garner (mentioned in another topic); steve mcqueen (of course, he was unavailable). but trintignant a gunslinger? Actually, I would have seen better than him, with a crazy twist added, even Pierre Clementi. If other names come to mind, I'll tell you. But Trintignant: no, in thunder! And about his being a sex-symbol, well... He surely wasn't a Delon or a Belmondo. But not even a Fabio Testi.
About Kinski, he plays the part Kinski was payed to play to the excess, there are no shadings in his acting, he's  playing the crazy man with a sadistic slant all the time, and that's that. He's monodimensional. I think his best performance ever (even though a short one) was the hunchback. His forced restrain with the trempbling lip when LVC light the cigar on his back his one of the greatest expressions I ever saw in an actor, on a par with the close-up of Welles in Falstaff.
About Wolff, he plays dumb, but sometimes he act like he's not dumb at all. so one wonders where it's at: his character is not well defined, I think.   
About tits, I don't have anything against it: only the character of the "black" woman was there because in 1968 there was still some hindrance from censors to a white woman showing tits. That's why the presence of a black woman on the mountains looks preposterous.   
About the long scenes in Leone, actually what I find to be excesive is the bridge episode in GBU, which makes me prefer FFDM to it. Of course, OUTA has an abundance of long and (in my opinion) absolutely disposable scenes: one for all: the one in the nursery: the ugliest scene ever filmed by Leone.   

General Discussion / Re: Eastwood's other Greatest movies...
« on: July 26, 2005, 02:10:43 AM »
I saw Paint you Wagon at the theatre 35 years ago and never had the nerve to watch it again since.

General Discussion / Re: The Italian Directors
« on: July 26, 2005, 02:07:27 AM »
Let's not forget  Pasolini and Dino Risi.

Other Films / Re: Spaghetti Westerns vs. American Westerns
« on: July 25, 2005, 06:36:11 AM »
Nobody in Italy (Leone as first) knew a thing about Clint Eastwood in 1964. Rawhide was never televised (and I first heard the title song only in Blues Brothers). Actually I was uncertain, for a pair of years, if his was a pseudonym like all the other ones. I would like to know, from other europeans contributors of my same age, if it was like this in the other european countries as well.   

Anyway, it is true that american faces contributed to the SW: but as faces, not because icons: they were made icons in SW, starting from Eastwood, passing through van Cleef, Bronson and, partially, Fonda as well: who had his screen presence totally redifined (and was immediately adopted in USA in There was a Crooked Man. Beautiful movie, by the way, but unthinkable without Leone). It was here that their image was redefined and fixed, even though Bronson will have to add a pair of mustache.

P.S. I didn't know Garner (one of my favourite actors) was a SW "star". Actually I couldn't name off the cuff a SW featuring him. And I don't want to check on IMDB. But SW "star" he never was. at least in Italy.


The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: The Man With No Mane
« on: July 25, 2005, 06:01:10 AM »
you sure a bad ilk, folks.

Web Site Announcements / Re: USERNAME ???
« on: July 25, 2005, 05:58:53 AM »
I saw the cover of the single with the music of FOD (which was a big hit in Italy in 1964) at a friend's home, probably before I saw the movie. I was (and partly still am) befuddled by this non-"title" (well, in italian titoli, apart from being the plural of "title", means "film credits"),  and couldn't understand why they couldn't find a better "titolo" to the tune. I think Morricone, like all the rest, was surprised as any by the success of the movie and hadn't cared about it. 

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Censorship
« on: July 25, 2005, 04:44:08 AM »
censorship fits into this category along with certain drug and prostitution laws, which are designed to stunt peoples freedom to do things which others consider wrong, and yet are hurting nothing but the moral being of those who willingly participate...

Well, actually those laws are also hurting the taxpayer's contributions as well as the personal well-being of the citizens, as to try to enforce those (ineffectual) laws you have to cope with increased criminality rates (both at ground level, with all those petty criminals stealing what they can to pay their habits; and at top level, with bosses of criminality surely not wanting those laws to be abolished getting enormously rich); police forces always increasing in numbers; and personal security gimmicks to be bought.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Censorship
« on: July 25, 2005, 02:32:03 AM »
it's an old discussion matter, probably never to find an end. And nobody knows why, as we are, like you say, in the internet era, so the film banned in Australia can be seen easily in a Europe site or the reverse.
In the '70's we had an output of material of all kinds freely sold in some countries. I remember to have seen child porn sold in supermarkets in Danemark in 1976! And what about, in those same years, the cannibal movies with all kind of violence toward animals? Were then the people worse than they are today?  One might easily argue on the contrary. But though I think that is right to defend the children and animals' rights, the adults should be left free of watching what they want, after made alert of what the show they're gonna watch is about. 
The problem, probably, is that to lead "battles" against matters dealing with sex is the easiest way to acquire visibility, otherwise denied to minority groups and individuals. So this kind of buffoonery is going to last, I'm afraid, with lots of resources and energy spent which could instead find a better employ.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Vive le Tour
« on: July 24, 2005, 09:11:38 AM »
The main question is, rather: when shall we have again a generation of bycicle riders who won't limit itself to make a (quite dull) race only in the first three weeks of July and doing nothing but "trainig" in the other eleven months?

Other Films / Re: Vamos a matar, compaƱeros aka Companeros (1970)
« on: July 24, 2005, 08:59:31 AM »
I liked it very much when I saw it at the theatre. Now I prefer by a long way Il mercenario, though marred (as I have already said in another discussion) by Musante playing Milian's role.
Anyway, I would like you to explain to me, if you please, the finale: what is it that makes Nero move?

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