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1  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Does anybody actually like Alex Cox? on: October 27, 2013, 02:28:59 PM
I think we are being way too critical of Sir Frayling. After all he praised Leone, long before it became fashionable to do so, and he was pretty much the only critic to really take Sergio seriously. As for the "mistakes" in his books, you have to remember that they were written before the age of dvds or youtube. Back then you didn't have the luxury of watching a certain scene over and over again, and a lot of the so called mistakes, can possibly be contributed to this. Cox on the other hand only seems to enjoy the smaller and lesser known spaghettis, and you kinda get the feeling that the more obscure the movie, the more he likes it. I respect his fondness and knowledge of the genre, but his personal preferences are way off.
2  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Does anybody actually like Alex Cox? on: May 24, 2013, 11:18:15 AM
Very nice observation about the commentary bit by Cox. But as far as I remember he doesn't consider it to be a mistake/flaw. To my recollection he actually kinda praises the order of the scenes, saying it fits the mood or pace of the movie. But it could be I just forgot, been awhile since I watched the film with the commentary on
3  Films of Sergio Leone / For a Few Dollars More / Re: Final Duel: Animated Reworking. on: October 08, 2012, 11:35:00 AM
Awesome stuff Afro
4  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Who would´ve preferred a cut with a bit more action? on: October 02, 2012, 10:46:11 AM
This is Leones most complete film, and in my opinion his greatest. Trying to change a mastepiece like this would be so futile that only a complete fool would try it. Or a complete madman Wink
5  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Does anybody actually like Alex Cox? on: October 28, 2011, 05:42:00 PM
Interesting with that list, and you're right about GBU. When I read his chapter about the movie, I thougt he was way too critical. Of course there are flaws in the film, but they are very superficial compared to The Great Silence and escpacially Django, but he makes it seems as though GBU is a very flawed movie. Also, he seems to have an intense dislike for Eastwood, why, I don't know. It's nice to see that he does put Leone at the top of his list though, but by reading his book, I got a completely different impression. His review of DYS is ridiculous. And saying that Jason Robards is an unimportant and silly character as Cheyenne, is in my opinion very wrong.

I think the book is best when it is dealing with the overall genre of SW's. He's got some great historic and cinematic observations. But I strongly disagree with most of his personal views on the most important movies of the genre. But still, it's great reading, and it is nice to have a so called "expert", who is critical about Leone, which one certainly can't say Frayling is. But for me, Frayling is the true expert. At least when it comes to the real Sergio
6  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Does anybody actually like Alex Cox? on: October 27, 2011, 11:25:56 AM
I agree that it is odd that Day of Anger doesn't get a chapter in the book, but I do remember that he mentions it somewhere. And besides Van Cleef, Al mulock and good old Benito, he is not too fond of the movie. I thought the movie could have been great with a more serious approach, starting with casting someone else than the extremely annoying Giuliano Gemma. He totally ruins an otherwise fine spaghetti.
Are you sure about Cox's position regarding Face to Face? I thought he loved the movie, guess i should read up on the Sollima westerns if that's case..
7  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Does anybody actually like Alex Cox? on: October 27, 2011, 06:14:28 AM
He seems pretty crazy about THe Big Gundown and Face to Face, but not so much on Run man Run. But overall I think he regards Sollima highly. Can't rememer what he thinks of Petroni, but I think he likes Death Rides a Horse. He writes early in the book that he thinks that all the good SW were made before 1970, so I guess that leaves  out any praise of Castellari, but I'm not entirely sure.
8  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Does anybody actually like Alex Cox? on: October 27, 2011, 06:01:18 AM
I agree that Corbucci's influence on the genre is equal to Leone. And I think that Corbucci's best work is perhaps more interesting than the two first Leone westerns. But I don't think that they're better films. All the Corbucci movies that I have seen seems flawed, but he's so much more extreme in his best works, and that is what is great about him. But what I find wrong with Cox is that he blames the failures in Corbucci's work, on just about everything except the director himself. He goes all Freud on Leone, trying to find an explanation for his potrayal of women in his movies, while he glorifies Corbucci and his idealism. But I also don't get why he dislikes The Mercenary. I think it's one of the absolute best non Leone SW's. The score is one of the best of the genre, the actors are great, and it's visually very beautiful. Also the duel between Musante and Jack Palance is one of the best SW duels i have seen. And it is lifted straight out of For a Few Dollars More. So I kinda get the feeling that the reason Alex Cox doesn't like this film, is because it borrows so much from Leone. Then again, I think that Leone took a thing or two from The Mercenary when he made Duck You Sucker
9  General Information / General Discussion / Re: Does anybody actually like Alex Cox? on: October 27, 2011, 12:42:16 AM
I just think that our friend Alex Cox, tries to bring not only Corbucci but the whole SW genre to a much too high level of cinema. I agree that SW's have certainly been ignored as cheap and violent exploitation movies, but then again, I think that is what most of them are. But some of the best of the genre are great westerns, but I don't like to compare them to the classic westerns of Hollywood. I think that the genres are much too different. Therefore I tend to judge SW by comparing them only to other SW's, because the genre is so unique and stylized. For me the genre is all about style. I don't think the messages of the political SW's are relevant for me today. So the main attraction is in the music, the cinematography and the over the top violence, not the politics. 
10  General Information / General Discussion / Does anybody actually like Alex Cox? on: October 26, 2011, 03:00:23 PM
Just wondering what people seems to think of the guy. When I started reading his book "10.000 ways to die", I became impressed with his knowledge and enthusiasm about the SW genre, and the way he relates to earlier hollywood westerns. But as I kept on reading, I became increasingly tired of his love and praise of nearly every single Corbucci film. I realise that he made some of the best movies of the genre, and i think that The Great Silence and The Mercenary are some of the best non-Leone. But he keeps praising The great silence. The movie is great because of Kinski and Trintingangt, Morricones fabulous score, the beautiful locations, and of course the ending. But Corbucci is not a great filmmaker, and most of his films are cheap.
Cox also seems to rate the political SW films higher than most other. Especially if the movies and their directors are as left wing as Alex Cox himself. I kinda got the feeling that the reason he didn't like The Mercenary very much, is because it's an american financed picture. As he points out himself, the score is great, the cinematography, locations and production design are all top notch. But still he wonders why he dosen't like the picture. Perhaps Corbucci wasn't good enough to helm such a large movie. No doubt the real Sergio would have created a masterpiece with the same scipt and money, but Cox dosen't consider this. He seems to blame it on the american influence. In other words you might say that Corbucci sold out, but Cox keeps searching in the dark for an explanation that doesn't betray his blind love of Corbucci.
No doubt Alex Cox has great knowledge about SW genre, and I think that most of his observations and reviews of various SW's are great. But his quest to make Sergio Corbucci into a great filmmaker as Leone, or perhaps even greater, is very tiresome. This, combined with his habit of confusing great SWs with left wing political ones, makes it hard for me to view him as an authority on the genre
11  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / George Lucas and the "Spaghetti" influence on: October 11, 2011, 05:48:30 PM
It's well documented that the new generation of Hollywood directors of the 70's, was influenced not only by Leone, but by the general style and themes of the Spaghetti western genre. The anti heroes and the explicit and also more realistic violence of this magnificent period in American cinema, were clearly inspired by the Italian westerns. Especially George Lucas seems very influenced by this genre. His Star Wars movies, and not only the original ones, is filled with lots of references. I will list those I can think of, and hope that you guys can contribute with some new ones. Here goes:

The whole plot of the original Star Wars trilogy(episode 4,5,6) seems to be inspired or actually stolen from the movie "Texas Adios" with Franco Nero, who plays a Sherif determined to avenge the murder of his father. He is assisted by his younger brother, but it turns out late in the movie, that the man who killed their father is actually the real father of the younger brother. So the whole "You killed my father!...No I AM your father!!!" could very well come from this somewhat boring "Spaghetti".

Then there's the clothing of the Han Solo character, white shirt and black vest, which seems almost identical to what the Tomas Milian character in "Django Kill" is wearing. There's also a brief torture scene in "Django Kill", which is very similar to the torture of Han Solo in "The Empire Strikes Back".

And of course there's a more obivious reference in the new Star Wars movie, where the bounty hunter almost identical to Boba Fett of the orignal trilogy, is called Jango Fett. Only a "D" is missing here.

Well, I hope you guys can add something more:)
 
12  Films of Sergio Leone / For a Few Dollars More / Re: Number of bullets in calloways gun??? on: June 20, 2011, 05:29:51 PM
You're right about that reloading is rarely shown in westerns, whereas in action movies they're reloading all the time. I guess it just takes too much time showing a single action revolver being reloaded compared to an automatic gun.  In the case of FAFDM, i don't think it is that big of a problem, if a problem at all. But I see your point. On the other hand, Sergio more than made up for it with Blondie reloading and putting together the gun in GBU Wink
13  Films of Sergio Leone / For a Few Dollars More / Number of bullets in calloways gun??? on: June 14, 2011, 05:40:55 PM
The other day I think I spotted another continuity error in the opening of FAFDM, besides the obvios wanted poster. When LVC knocks on the door to calloways hotel room, the calloway fires 4 shots at the door. then LVC kicks the door in, sees that his target is escaping, heads downstairs and shoots the horse and nails calloway in the shoulder. but then calloway draws his gun and fires 5-6 shots at van cleef. when did he reolad??? Smiley
14  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Why not Frayling???? on: September 24, 2006, 02:07:25 PM
Anyone knows why Prof. Frayling isn't a part of the special features on the new GBU dvd, and why he was replaced by the annoying Richard Schickel??? Not that don't like Schikel, but he just ain't a Leone expert. His ghastly american accent just ruin the entire commentary track, and the only thing he's an expert in is Eastwood. But this ain't an Eastwood movie...... It's a Sergio Leone movie!!!

"The star of a Sergio Leone movie is......Sergio Leone"
15  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Suicide????? on: September 01, 2006, 04:10:22 AM
Anyone knows how, and why Mulock decided to kill himself wearing his costume?Huh
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