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Other Films / Re: North to Alaska (1960)
« on: April 29, 2020, 04:09:48 PM »
I watched this one for the first time this evening.

Hathaway is a bit hit or miss for me, but his Westerns output is pretty good, especially the ones he did with John Wayne. I admit though, sometimes his films can be overlong, this one just about got away with it. As the OP points out, the climax is a bit weak, but I guess it tied up the loose ends without dragging the film out longer. I don't mind the John Ford humour, but in the later John Wayne films the punch-ups comedy is a bit routine and irksome and North to Alaska is full of it; it's funny, because I don't this style of comedy appears in any of the other Hathaway/Wayne westerns. With that said though, I quite enjoyed this; and I'm not a Stewart Grainger fan, but I liked him in this one. I'm also not really a fan of John Wayne, but I have to hand it to him he made some pretty solid movies and on occassion gave some truly great performances. I felt this one was like the beginning of the later John Wayne movies and most of his films after this followed the style, it felt really similar to the films he made with Andrew McLaglen.

I'd give this one a 7/10

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Other Films / Re: Along Came Jones (1945)
« on: April 29, 2020, 05:45:32 AM »
I just watched this one; and whilst I agree, it's not light-hearted enough to be a comedy, I thought it was okay and mildly amusing in places. There were a few interesting elements too and I liked the ending where she shot Dan Duryea.

I thought the cinematography was a mixed bag, but there were some good elements in places. Admittedly it wasn't a great film, but I thought it was reasonable, I was expecting worse. 6/10

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Other Films / Re: Hells Heroes (1930)
« on: April 22, 2020, 10:02:35 AM »
I just watched this one today; I got the 2 disc WAC set with the '36 version of Three Godfathers.

3 Bad Men is a great film, one of the best silent westerns, but I'm pretty sure it's based on a different book, albeit a similar premise. Hell's Heroes was really well shot and as you said in the original post, there were some cool little bits which gave some character depth early on. I didn't mind the 1948 John Ford version, but it's nowhere near Ford's other work; I think Hell's Heroes does a better job with the way it's shot and the way the story evolves. It's very interesting, as this is an early talkie, but this much better than other early talkies, it's easy to follow and the acting is pretty good in comparison. I quite like Charles Bickford, but I guess he was too gruff to become a lead in this era, I know he did Anna Christie with Garbo at this point too, but he never really evolved to leading man material.

I'm looking forward to watching the '36 version at some point, as I heard that's regarded as the best version.

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Other Films / Re: American Western Index
« on: April 21, 2020, 12:53:17 PM »
Thanks cigar joe.

I just posted one for Hell's Hinges, which I think is the best Hart to start with: http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=13618.0

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Other Films / Hell's Hinges (1916)
« on: April 21, 2020, 12:51:26 PM »
I thought I would just bring up William S Hart as his films don't seem to be mentioned here previously.

I think if you're a fan of Westerns and Spaghettis then you can appreciate Hart. I think Hell's Hinges is the best place to start with him, his films were generally quite gritty and realistic compared to the later films of the silent era and 30s, although he does sometimes give way to sentimentality a bit too easily. On paper Hell's Hinges seems a bit silly as Hart is the town bad boy, and he is converted by the new arrival of religion to town (helped by the reverend's sister); but it is actually executed quite well and the special effects at the end are really cool, especially as they're over 100 years old.

As I say, they're worth giving a try, I think his best ones are Hell's Hinges, The Narrow Trail, Tumbleweeds (his final film), The Return of Draw Egan and Sand. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of good quality restorations of his films out there, but their still watchable in their existing forms.

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Other Films / Re: The Wild Bunch (1969)
« on: April 21, 2020, 10:42:14 AM »
I just rewatched this film this afternoon after probably 15 years. I think 15 years ago, I had only seen a few Westerns, all the Leone ones of course, probably The Searchers, Red River and maybe a few other ones of Clint. I did enjoy The Wild Bunch 15 years ago, but today it really hit me just how much of a great film it is.

I mean 15 years ago, I wouldn't have had too much of an idea of most of the cast, but watching it having now seen tonnes of movies with them all in, I really enjoyed their performances more. I've now seen a lot of Westerns from the silent era to today, so I can really appreciate how and why it ranks so highly amongst many of today's critics. For me, it's definitely amongst the top 10 Westerns I've ever seen, I just find the story and violence superb and there's a certain poetry about it. This and Ride the High Country are definitely Peckinpah's 2 best westerns. I do love Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia, Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid and The Ballad of Cable Hogue as well, but I think there a level below, then Major Dundee was a bit meh... I haven't seen The Glory Guys.

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Other Films / Re: American Western Index
« on: April 21, 2020, 07:34:14 AM »
Wow thanks for posting this and the Spaghetti Westerns one. I can't see any William S Hart westerns though.

These lists make me realise that I've probably seen/own at least 80% of Westerns that I've always been interested in.

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Other Films / Re: Along Came Jones (1945)
« on: April 21, 2020, 07:24:31 AM »
hmm, that's disappointing.

I was going to pick this one up, as it's one of the few classic Westerns released in the UK that I don't own; I'm a huge Duryea fan too. I'm sure I'll still get it, but I'll lower my expectations

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Other Films / Re: Four Faces West (1948)
« on: April 21, 2020, 07:18:01 AM »
This is a favourite film of mine. I can understand that the final third is a bit dull, but I still enjoy it. Very interesting concept and I'm a big McCrea fan. I guess compared to other McCrea westerns it's probably not as good as the ones he did with Tourneur or Ride the High Country (few films are).

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General Discussion / Upgrading to 4K
« on: April 21, 2020, 03:28:45 AM »
Hi there,

It's been a few years since I've posted here, but I'm currently in the process of upgrading to a 4K player and I'm interested to getting as many Leone films in 4K as possible. Is it just The Good, The Bad and The Ugly that has been released in 4K at the moment? is it worth purchasing (I'm a fan of the original theatrical cut)? I'm in the UK, but I assume the UK 4K release is the same as the Kino Lorber one.

I did read a thread about the 4K release on The Good, The Bad and The Ugly forum, but it was quite long to trawl through and people were talking about the specifics of the films and the different versions. The reviews on Amazon.co.uk weren't exactly clear on what edition of the film was being reviewed.

I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks,

Rob

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Things that bother me
« on: June 15, 2019, 03:28:24 AM »
Then you misunderstood me. I'm for the longer version. But without the cave scene, which means the Italian version.

The fort scene is good for the rhythm and it brings Sentenza back in the film, who is without this scene too long away. And it the only scene which shows some human emotions from him. But on the other hand the scene where he suddenly shows up in the prison camp is more effective in the 161 min version.

The scene in which Blondie and Sentenza camp at night is one I would cut out. Superfluous, and it looks bad. Probably the weakest scene in the film. And then there is a short piece in which Tuco asks for the way to the mission, this one is superfluous too. But I like all the other scenes. And that short part with the drunk Captain is great.

So my perfect version runs 171 min. I call it the Stanton cut.

I agree with your cut, but usually I just watch the regular 161 cut if I'm watching it.

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Ennio Morricone / Re: The Hateful Eight not being shown in Cineworld UK
« on: January 07, 2016, 04:14:35 AM »
I didn't even realise there was an Overture and Intermission!  :D

Yes the Odeon Leicester Square one is two tiered. Although I last went there when I was 7 years old to watch Aladdin. I think I might as well try and watch it in 70mm now.

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Other Films / Re: One-Eyed Jacks (1961)
« on: January 06, 2016, 04:41:22 AM »
If I remember right Kubrick had started shooting "One Eyed Jacks", but couldnt get along with Brando on the set, so he left within a week?
I love this film, especially the windswept valley fight at the beginning and Karl Malden is one of the greatest actors alive and still kickin in his nineties!
What a damn shame that it is not available on a widescreen dvd, as I know there was a fantastic widescreen laserdisc out around ten years ago.
You know the studios have just been lazy as they probably feel there is no market for this classic.

I just got round to watching this film for the first time last week. I really enjoyed it, it has it's flaws of course, but it comes at an interesting point in the history of the Western in American cinema and I think marks the change between the traditional West and the "new wave" West that got into full swing after the Spaghetti Westerns. I think someone on these boards mentioned that it was a bit "overblown" and it did remind me of the most overblown Western ever made (which I love) "Duel in the Sun".

Admittedly it would have been interesting to see what Kubrick would have done with the picture (Sam Peckinpah was also rumoured to writing the screenplay too). That said I think Brando does a very admirable job as a director and he obviously took a lot of time over it. I'm not a huge Brando fan, but he has a lot of natural charisma and I think he works great in the lead role. That said he is somewhat overshadowed by Karl Malden and Ben Johnson who are terrific. I watched it on a poorish quality DVD and would love to see this get a restoration it deserves. I'd rate it an 8/10.

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Ennio Morricone / The Hateful Eight not being shown in Cineworld UK
« on: January 06, 2016, 04:28:26 AM »
It's disappointing to see that The Hateful Eight, the first fully-Morricone scored Tarantino movie, has been pulled from all Cineworld cinemas :(

I'm Cineworld Unlimited holder and it's a bit annoying. Apparently because Odeon (a rival Cinema chain) have an exclusivity clause in which they can show the film in a 70mm print (although I think it's only Odeon Leicester Square). Usually I wouldn't pay £12 to watch a movie at the cinema, but I quite want to see this.

I kind of understand why Cineworld are taking a stand, but it's a bit annoying having to pay additional money to see it.

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: GBU drops to #6 on IMDB
« on: January 06, 2016, 03:46:45 AM »
Yes, I haven't searched through TSPDT extensively before; but I enjoy it as it's named after my favourite Michael Sarrazin movie and also contains some great profile pages of my favourite directors along with quotes about them that I've never read before.

I've never gone through their full film list before though.

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