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« Reply #60 on: January 05, 2004, 12:23:06 PM »

Definitely.  There are absolutely no rules.  Take The Blair Witch Project for example.  It is filmed rather crude, there is almost if not n but it is all in the sound, and it's still one of the scariest movies ever.  I think it's one hell of an accomplishment.

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« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2004, 02:20:21 PM »

True!

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« Reply #62 on: January 05, 2004, 03:00:20 PM »

Definitely.  There are absolutely no rules.  Take The Blair Witch Project for example.  It is filmed rather crude, there is almost if not n but it is all in the sound, and it's still one of the scariest movies ever.  I think it's one hell of an accomplishment.
 sometime sit down and watch the original version of "the haunting" .

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« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2004, 10:25:40 PM »

Hi all

I vote OUaTitW as my favorite of all time.

I have not seen all movies made so it is limited in this
way.

I like to see Casablanca, the Searchers, Ran, the Lion
in Winter, Jeremiah Johnson, the Last Valley, and others
like once a decade.

But OUaTitW, I could savour it 2-4 times a year just to
match every music note to an action or scenery Leone
though of. There is so much details ...

I'm really fond of The Wild Bunch as close second.
And since most modern movies can be referenced to
the old west(fictional or true), I like The Getaway(72),
Thunderbolt and Lightfoot,  and  Bullitt.

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« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2004, 08:20:40 AM »

Hello Friends,

 It is not the first time we discuss together about "the best film...". IMO there is a big difference between to say" The film I  prefer"(subjective) and  "the best film  in Movie history" (objective).
        If we consider that Movie is an Art, and a complete one, we must be careful before to declare that "Attack of the Clones" or " my son filmed by the neighbour" is the best film ever made.
        For example who could seriously say that "The best  paintor" ... is my father because I love the portrait of my pet he made.If we talk about paintors , people would speak about Picasso, van Gogh or Modigliani... I suppose.
        Remember that Sergio himself was very modest in comparision with FORD, HAWKS, STURGES and others( Western only) and dozen of others great Directors he deeply respected himself.  Tongue


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« Reply #65 on: June 20, 2004, 07:45:50 PM »

This was the first Leone movie I saw, and pretty much from the moment it started I knew it was something special. Not many other films can change so dramatically your perception of what a film can be. Other than this, only twice have I been properly blown away by a film, with 2001 and Pulp Fiction. There's some of both these films in Leone. There's Kubrick's intense concern for style, for pace and for the beauty of a moving image, as well as Tarantino's concern for character. Once Upon a Time In the West manages to do so much with so little, and I think unlike Leone's other films it knows exactly what matters and what doesn't.

Its this perfection that makes me love it so much. To be honest its not my favourite Leone movie. The one I could watch repeatedly is FAFDM, but I couldn't really say that its a better film. OUATITW manages to capture all of the Leone themes which litter the other movies, but it doesn't attempt to dwell on any kind of deeper meaning, it remains a movie. I like GBU, and I like DYS but there pretensions to be epic just seem to get in the way of what I really find interesting about Leone. Thankfully Leone returned to his concern only for characters and not for 'gratuitous' scenes of men being executed in America. What's so cool about Leone is his concern not for abstract entities like politics ethics, but for the raw emotion of the characters. Like Frank, I think, at the end of FAFDM I don't feel any hatred towards El Indio, I can only feel the overwhelming sadness of the life he's chosen. Leone is at his best when he puts you inside a character's head, where you're no longer free to judge them. Hence the way we see the same issues dealt with in the many different characters created.

But anyway, as to West, I think it has the perfect match of existential analysis as well as well-rounded, self-conscious and minimalist story-telling. It is as close to perfect as I think its possible to be.

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« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2004, 09:59:23 PM »

Wonderful taste. if you don't mind me saying so!, ah, how i miss Blackadders quib's, being an englishman living in Chicago now.  How the hell someone who is a fan of Leone's can be an "x file", is beyond my comprehension.   My favorite scene from OUTTW?, just after the massacre of the family, when the kid runs out(or should i say "when the camera runs out", to be confronted by evil incarnate...............sigh.  Wonder what gave him the idea to use the camera like that.

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« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2004, 04:16:18 AM »

 Yeah , terrible scene.  OUATITW are full of scene like this one wich speak directly to the soul.
  It's a real masterpiece, everything is controlled.Yeah the best fim ever made, for me , because no other film did so great effect on me than this one. Wich is very great is that each scene can been taken independantly and produce effects, but although the movie as a whole is a perfectly coherent entity.

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« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2004, 04:37:25 PM »

Wonderful taste. if you don't mind me saying so!, ah, how i miss Blackadders quib's, being an englishman living in Chicago now.  How the hell someone who is a fan of Leone's can be an "x file", is beyond my comprehension.   My favorite scene from OUTTW?, just after the massacre of the family, when the kid runs out(or should i say "when the camera runs out", to be confronted by evil incarnate...............sigh.  Wonder what gave him the idea to use the camera like that.

It's just one of those things, pal.  I'm also a Wingnut, in case you're wondering.  Tongue

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« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2004, 09:50:08 PM »

It's just one of those things, pal.  I'm also a Wingnut, in case you're wondering.  Tongue
.    "Wingnut"!!, correct me if im'e wrong, but isn't that a piece of metal that screws onto a bolt, or screw?.

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« Reply #70 on: June 24, 2004, 06:00:31 AM »

.    "Wingnut"!!, correct me if im'e wrong, but isn't that a piece of metal that screws onto a bolt, or screw?.

Yes sir.  That's the generally excepted definition.

In case no one else helps you out, see:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0200276/

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« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2004, 07:15:55 PM »

The 3 greatest films ever made:

1. RAN
2. TAXI DRIVER
3. THE AMERICAN FRIEND

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« Reply #72 on: July 04, 2004, 01:36:29 PM »

I just want to make a quick comment on the notion that OUATIW doesn't have an adequate story. First off i think it does, but i won't go into that because of my second point. THE STORY DOESN"T MATTER! it's all about the storyteller, tell me which you'd enjoy more... robin williams telling the story of little red riding hood, or some dolt reading moby dick. now we all agree that moby dick is a more complex story but i guess my point is that cinema is about storytelling not the story, if it were about the story it'd be a book.

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« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2004, 09:33:01 PM »

Correct. OUATITW is perfect. It's interesting but before seeing it my point of view was probably rather close to Visitor's. It revolutionized the way I look at movies. If you want a great story, if you want to explore the deepest meaning of humanity, read a book. As far as movies go, for me OUATITW uses the medium to its fullest potential. Every frame is a work of art, every scene is perfect. So my appreciation of "deep" movies has suffered, but I find my new perspective refreshing.

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« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2004, 01:52:37 PM »

My favourite part of the film...I think it's the final duel between Harmonica and Frank,which is also the best duel of all the movie duels.The time stands still,as the music plays and Leone takes those extreme close-ups of the characters faces.I've watched this part of the film several times,and it has a huge impact on me every single time I see it.

I second that.  I was barely getting over the shock of the scene explaining Frank's crime, when the shootout is over without a warning, and in an instant.  That flashback was sick, about as nasty as anything I ever saw on film, and while you struggle to comprehend that, you're hit with the shootout.  As good as it will ever get, one of THE grade A moments of film history.

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