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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2014, 12:06:01 PM »

Yes, the cemetery scene is a great one too.
Certainly Leone forgot to mention that he directed this one too. Or his overly famous modesty demanded to name only 3 scenes.

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« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2014, 04:47:00 PM »

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"Well basically, I directed the movie. Except for the parts you didn't like."

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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2014, 06:30:20 AM »

"There was/were never any good old days." Good old days is an idiomatic expression.

I had not seen the answer, sorry. Thanks DJ!

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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2014, 07:23:08 AM »

Grin Grin

"Well basically, I directed the movie. Except for the parts you didn't like."
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2014, 07:46:40 PM »

Yes, the cemetery scene is a great one too.
Certainly Leone forgot to mention that he directed this one too. Or his overly famous modesty demanded to name only 3 scenes.

If my memory serves me correctly, there is an interview where he claims credit for that scene as well.

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« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2014, 03:04:01 AM »

we discussed this already somewhere else, but what the hell: RE: FOD, this is from page 133 of STDWD:

According to Tonino Valerii: Leone didn't actually spend any time at all in Almeria, during the shoot. Franco Giraldi shot the famous scene at the Rio Bravo Canyon, the night-time sequence when the Baxter house burns down, and the key exteriors in the desert."* Giraldi himself recalls that he was appointed at the last minute, when the crew was already in Madrid, "because they hadn't realized till then that they would need a second unit at all."** Leone restricted himself to shooting the Stranger's scenes and cutaways. But he did help to recce the location, and found a cobbled courtyard, with a well and adobe dwellings, at Cortijo El Sotillo, some five minutes from San Jose to the east of Almeria town. Those belonged to a wealthy landowner, and were ideal to serve as the outskirts of San Miguel in the film's all-important opening. Leone also looked at the two 'ramblas' (dried-up river beds) at the base of Los Filabres mountains above Tabernas, which could double as canyons through which Mexican heavies hurtled on their horses. But these were not very accessible at that time. There was no airport to speak of at Granada or Almeria, so the desert was a long train-ride from Madrid or an even longer car-ride from Malaga. Moreover, the surrounding region had little in the way of facilities, Almeria being the least developed region of Spain. Some claimed that Franco had deliberately punished Almeria for its fiercely Republican sympathies in the Civil War by not offering any central or regional government support. But since parts of David Lean's Lawrence of Arabia were filmed there in spring 1962, the Almerian desert had become increasingly appealing to international film-makers.

*Here there is a footnote that reads, "Author's interview with Valerii; see also Montpellier pp. 61-63.
** Here the footnote reads, "Montpelleier, p. 60"

However, the rest of this paragraph has no footnote listing any source. So where did Frayling get the info for his sentence, "Leone restricted himself to shooting the Stranger's scenes and cutaways"? Frayling gives a source for just about every statement in the book, there are tons and tons of footnotes, so it's very strange that he doesn't give any source for that sentence.



Anyway, on p. 145, it says, about Leone: When he was shooting Eastwood's entrance into San Miguel at Cortijo El Sotillo, he decided he would like Joe the Stranger to ride past a solitary tree in the desert, with a rope and noose hanging from it. But there weren't any trees in that part of the Almerian desert, and, after much animated discussion, Leone drove off in his cowboy hat to find one..." Frayling goes on to quote Eastwood telling the story of how Leone found a tree he liked in someone's yard, so he knocked on that person's door and said he was from the highway department and that the tree must be cut down for safety reasons, and then the crew sawed down the tree and used it for the movie. (Shame on them  Evil)
But after he finishes quoting Eastwood on this story, Frayling ends the paragraph with the following sentence. (this sentence is NOT part of Eastwood's quote; it is Frayling's own observation) :
So Leone was in Almeria, after all.

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« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2014, 06:33:24 PM »

From http://monnomestpersonne1973.blogspot.com/2012_01_01_archive.html

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La présence de Sergio Leone au Cortijo El Sotillo de San José (Almeria) est bien attestée par les photogrammes des rushes montrés dans les Bonus du DVD Per un pugno di Dollari, RHV, 2008. Franco Giraldi ajoute lui-même dans le livre qui lui est consacré, qu'il ne vînt à Almeria que le dernier jour du tournage, avant de s'en retourner à Rome...

Roughly: "Sergio Leone's presence at Cortijo El Sotillo de San José (Almeria) is well attested by frames of rushes shown in the bonus features of the Per un pugno di Dollari, RHV, 2008 DVD. Franco Giraldo himself adds in the book dedicated to him that he only came to Almeria on the last day of shooting before returning to Rome"

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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2014, 05:15:13 AM »

From http://monnomestpersonne1973.blogspot.com/2012_01_01_archive.html

Roughly: "Sergio Leone's presence at Cortijo El Sotillo de San José (Almeria) is well attested by frames of rushes shown in the bonus features of the Per un pugno di Dollari, RHV, 2008 DVD. Franco Giraldo himself adds in the book dedicated to him that he only came to Almeria on the last day of shooting before returning to Rome"

Who is the "he" Giraldo or Leone?

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« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2014, 09:21:45 AM »

It is as ambiguous in the original French as it is in Novencento's translation.

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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2014, 08:42:24 PM »

Hey noodles_leone, I think "he" refers to Giraldi given that the preceding paragraph says the following:

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Clint, Dispara! traduit des textes de Carlo Gaberscek consacrés à Pour une poignée de Dollars, mais en reprenant l'erreur de créditer Franco Giraldi comme auteur des séquences tournées à Almeria.

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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2014, 03:39:50 AM »

You're right! I hadn't read that paragraph.

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