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« : June 29, 2012, 03:11:35 AM »

Director: Joseph Lerner Stars: Zachary Scott, Faye Emerson and Mary Bolanda very dark noir, almost too dark in spots, the copy I watched was murky. It has only two NYC shots that you can make out one is in the opening Under The Brooklyn Bridge the other is of a draw bridge and warehouses on the Gowanus Canal. Nothing to go out of your way to try and find. I've always found Scott to be a more than a little annoying as an actor (for me he's never convincing) and a bit over the top. 5/10

typical look of the copy:

Under the Brooklyn Bridge opening sequence


Drawbridge on Gowanus Canal


To be fair and balanced I'll give the review of  IMDb's bmarcy (he likes Scott a bit better.  ;)

Author: bmacv from Western New York
This movie presents a curious case. It obviously was made on a rock-bottom budget (and looks it); its plot -- about a kidnapped boy -- is as hard to follow as The Big Sleep's, without any of that movie's big-studio glamour and high gloss; and prints of the movie in circulation, with poor sound and visuals, don't help its reputation either. Nonetheless, Guilty Bystander has a few very strong points in its favor. Chief among them is the old pro Mary Boland as Smitty, the proprietress of a fleabag hotel several notches below the threshold of respectability; she's a scheming old battleax who has more going on under her unkempt wisps of grey hair than she wants her cronies and go-fers to know. Next there's Zachary Scott, as Max Thursday, an ex-cop now sleeping off benders in the same fleabag, where he's kept on as the house dick; an underrated actor, he invests his loser's role with a painful intensity, stumbling and limping from skid row to waterfront to warehouse in pursuit for the son he hasn't seen in years. As his ex-wife and mother of the kidnapped boy, Faye Emerson (Mrs. Elliott Roosevelt to you), brings more than her fabled bone structure to the part. In fact, with better acting than you have any right to expect (plus an unrelentingly depressing milieu), Guilty Bystander is more than a curio; it's as if the cast knew what a lousy movie they signed up for and decided to go for broke anyway.


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« #1 : June 15, 2020, 05:26:36 AM »

OK, found a very good copy to stream of Guilty Bystander. It's probably one of my favorite Scott roles now. What before had been long murky sequenes are now almost crystal clear upping my estimate to a 7-8/10

check it out here: https://www.bynwr.com/articles/guilty-bystander-1950


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« #2 : June 15, 2020, 04:08:24 PM »

OK, found a very good copy to stream of Guilty Bystander. It's probably one of my favorite Scott roles now. What before had been long murky sequenes are now almost crystal clear upping my estimate to a 7-8/10

check it out here: https://www.bynwr.com/articles/guilty-bystander-1950
Thanks, CJ, I just took a look. Great looking restoration (produced by Nicolas Winding Refn!). I didn't like the film all that much, but I did appreciate the way some of the locations were used. Some good photography too. Glad I got the chance to see it.



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« #3 : June 27, 2020, 03:23:09 PM »

The novel is set in San Diego and there are some substantial differences with the movie though the plotline is about the same, especially in the first part. The main killer has got a daughter and there are two scenes where Thursday find himself in the Ocean water. Both novel and movie so are just time-wasters,  with little to recommend them. I expected more from "Wade Miller", but the last time I read something from him it was about 50 years ago. 5-6/10


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« #4 : June 29, 2020, 08:33:58 AM »

The novel is set in San Diego and there are some substantial differences with the movie though the plotline is about the same, especially in the first part. The main killer has got a daughter and there are two scenes where Thursday find himself in the Ocean water. Both novel and movie so are just time-wasters,  with little to recommend them. I expected more from "Wade Miller", but the last time I read something from him it was about 50 years ago. 5-6/10

Also the hooker Angel lives in the hotel, lol. Wonder if it was director Joseph Lerner that transposed everything to his native New York. There are supposedly two other Max Thursday novels have you read them?



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« #5 : June 29, 2020, 10:15:56 AM »

Also the hooker Angel lives in the hotel, lol.


That is because she has to bring Clifford there and keep the line with Thursday, the main killer and what else. The plot sucks.

 
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There's 5 novels about MT. I have got them all (with also a dozen of WM no-Thursday) but I'm reading something else at the moment.

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« #6 : July 12, 2020, 07:46:49 PM »

The novel is set in San Diego and there are some substantial differences with the movie though the plotline is about the same, especially in the first part. The main killer has got a daughter and there are two scenes where Thursday find himself in the Ocean water. Both novel and movie so are just time-wasters,  with little to recommend them. I expected more from "Wade Miller", but the last time I read something from him it was about 50 years ago. 5-6/10

OK just read it myself. The beginning is like the film but after that a lot more is going on. The weapon used to kill Elder which the film barely alludes to is what Miller is calling in the novel is a specially made .22 caliber shot gun. There are quite a few more murders, the diamonds in the film are in reality in the novel, a million dollars worth of pearls. The end of the novel is way better than the film. 

I enjoyed the novel a bit more than you, I had low expectations especially after your review and knowing the local was San Diego, better than I expected


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« #7 : July 12, 2020, 11:23:19 PM »

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