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« #645 : April 22, 2018, 10:35:29 AM »

CJ wrote that it "wasn't the climate"  ^-^

Different issues, same scientific consensus. Even the NASA is on board. Only the (few) scientists that are paid by the fossil fuel and industrial lobbies disagree. The very fact that the thing isn't a debate anymore everywhere else in the world should at least make you guys rethink the issue.

PS: solar panel and wind turbines industries aren't that powerful as a lobby.

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« #646 : April 22, 2018, 02:46:13 PM »

Well why would you mix a discussion of pollution with a discussion of global warming?

The climate ALARMISTS have been referring to greenhouse-gas emissions as "pollution," as if that will settle the debate - after all, who wouldn't be against "pollution"? Pollution is certainly bad, but nothing to do with greenhouse-gas emissions, whether or not you believe in global warming.

We have been freezing our asses off all across the U.S. this winter. It's April 22 and the high temps have never broken out of the very low 60's. Many days have been colder, and nights have been damn near freezing. The leftist response is that it's not "global warming" anymore, it's "climate change." When they were calling it "global warming," at least you could argue over the date; now that they've retreated and are calling it "climate change," it's an argument that can't even be dealt with.

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My only complaint about global warming is that there's not enough of it. Here is a great op-ed http://www.jeffjacoby.com/20620/the-blessings-of-climate-change I'll cite a few paragraphs of it

In the church of climate alarmism, there may be no heresy more dangerous than the idea that the world will benefit from warming. Zealous preachers seek to scare their flock with forecasts of catastrophe, horror, and threats to civilization. Anyone who demurs is denounced as an apostate: an anti-science "denier."

But the truth — the inconvenient truth, to coin a phrase — is that while climate change brings negatives, it brings positives too. Polar melting may cause dislocation for those who live in low-lying coastal areas, but it will also lead to safe commercial shipping in formerly inhospitable northern seas, and to economic opportunity for high-latitude residents in places like Point Hope.

Shifts in climate are like shifts in the economy: They invariably spell good news for some and bad news for others. Falling interest rates are a blessing to homebuyers but a curse to savers; a strong dollar helps consumers buying imports but hinders exporters selling abroad. In the same way, changes in climate generate winners and losers. Some of global warming's effects will be disagreeable; others will be very welcome.

Worldwide, cold kills 20 times as many people as heat, so a warming planet will save lives. A plethora of data confirms the greater deadliness of cold weather, even in countries with very different climate patterns. One study of mortality rates, for example, found that deaths from cold outnumbered those from heat by a ratio of 33-to-2 in Australia, and 61-to-3 in Britain. Of 2,000 weather-related deaths in America tallied by the Centers for Disease Control, 63 percent were caused by excessive cold vs. 31 percent caused by excessive heat.

A warming planet will also be a greener planet. Is a greener planet. Rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere have already led to "persistent and widespread increase" in leaf cover — i.e., greening — across as much as half of the world's vegetated regions, according to a study published in Nature last year.


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« #647 : April 27, 2018, 02:59:06 AM »

Well why would you mix a discussion of pollution with a discussion of global warming?

The climate ALARMISTS have been referring to greenhouse-gas emissions as "pollution," as if that will settle the debate - after all, who wouldn't be against "pollution"? Pollution is certainly bad, but nothing to do with greenhouse-gas emissions, whether or not you believe in global warming.

We have been freezing our asses off all across the U.S. this winter. It's April 22 and the high temps have never broken out of the very low 60's. Many days have been colder, and nights have been damn near freezing. The leftist response is that it's not "global warming" anymore, it's "climate change." When they were calling it "global warming," at least you could argue over it; now that they've retreated and are calling it "climate change," it's an argument that can't even be dealt with.

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My only complaint about global warming is that there's not enough of it. Here is a great op-ed http://www.jeffjacoby.com/20620/the-blessings-of-climate-change I'll cite a few paragraphs of it

In the church of climate alarmism, there may be no heresy more dangerous than the idea that the world will benefit from warming. Zealous preachers seek to scare their flock with forecasts of catastrophe, horror, and threats to civilization. Anyone who demurs is denounced as an apostate: an anti-science "denier."

But the truth — the inconvenient truth, to coin a phrase — is that while climate change brings negatives, it brings positives too. Polar melting may cause dislocation for those who live in low-lying coastal areas, but it will also lead to safe commercial shipping in formerly inhospitable northern seas, and to economic opportunity for high-latitude residents in places like Point Hope.

Shifts in climate are like shifts in the economy: They invariably spell good news for some and bad news for others. Falling interest rates are a blessing to homebuyers but a curse to savers; a strong dollar helps consumers buying imports but hinders exporters selling abroad. In the same way, changes in climate generate winners and losers. Some of global warming's effects will be disagreeable; others will be very welcome.

Worldwide, cold kills 20 times as many people as heat, so a warming planet will save lives. A plethora of data confirms the greater deadliness of cold weather, even in countries with very different climate patterns. One study of mortality rates, for example, found that deaths from cold outnumbered those from heat by a ratio of 33-to-2 in Australia, and 61-to-3 in Britain. Of 2,000 weather-related deaths in America tallied by the Centers for Disease Control, 63 percent were caused by excessive cold vs. 31 percent caused by excessive heat.

A warming planet will also be a greener planet. Is a greener planet. Rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere have already led to "persistent and widespread increase" in leaf cover — i.e., greening — across as much as half of the world's vegetated regions, according to a study published in Nature last year.



Ok, once and for all, it isn't a "leftist" argument, it's a scientific (scientifist if you will) one. There is no way YOU can go around that: man made climate change is proven and isn't even debated anymore in the scientific community apart from a few (American) scientists openly PAID by the fossil fuel industry.

Now, about climate change being a good or a bad thing, I don't know, what I know is insurance companies think it's pretty bad for business. Some say "it's bad but we'll manage it" and others say "It's way too bad for us insurance companies, let's fight it". I know it because it's Lucie's job to talk with them :)

Last, about fossil fuel helping economies: they have helped economy in the past, time to move on and embrace change like the real free market proponent you say you are. All the most recent studies show that most (not all, but most) developing countries would be economically much better off by investing in renewable energies than in fossil fuel. Turns out these countries tend to have plenty of sun or wind available. Man up and embrace change instead of winning that leftists are hurting profits (hint: they are from the point of view of Total shareholders, they aren't from a full market perspective).

I suspect your dislike of leftists blinds you on the topic (while the world is literally laughing at your whole country for listening to real life Daniel Plainview and the like instead of actual scientists).

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« #648 : March 19, 2019, 10:17:00 PM »

Has DNA evidence finally solved the mystery of Jack the Ripper?

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/infamous-jack-ripper-serial-killer-might-identified-dna-170200121--abc-news-topstories.html



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« #649 : March 20, 2019, 02:36:35 AM »

Has DNA evidence finally solved the mystery of Jack the Ripper?

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/infamous-jack-ripper-serial-killer-might-identified-dna-170200121--abc-news-topstories.html

Interesting.


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« #650 : May 06, 2019, 12:44:38 PM »

Irwin Winkler releasing an autobiography called “A Life in Movies: Stories from 50 Years in Hollywood”

https://www.amazon.com/Life-Movies-Stories-years-Hollywood/dp/1419734520


https://apnews.com/9e2bd0b48fbf43f6b52329b618b2bd2b


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« #651 : May 14, 2019, 10:48:40 AM »

Will political correctness kill classic movies?

https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/443282-will-political-correctness-kill-classic-movies


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« #652 : May 14, 2019, 12:27:02 PM »

Build the culture bunker deep and wide.



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« #653 : May 14, 2019, 04:49:35 PM »

Build the culture bunker deep and wide.

 ;D

One day we’ll all be paying admission to get into DJ’s illegal theater, for showings of the classics  :)


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« #654 : May 15, 2019, 01:06:25 AM »

;D

One day we’ll all be paying admission to get into DJ’s illegal theater, for showings of the classics  :)

I'd pay for that one. Will it look like OUATIA's speakeasy?



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« #655 : May 15, 2019, 08:00:57 AM »

More like the opium den . . .



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« #656 : May 15, 2019, 12:36:41 PM »

Even better. Hippie.



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« #657 : May 15, 2019, 02:13:15 PM »

 :D
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« #658 : May 28, 2019, 09:35:06 AM »

17-Year-Old Accompanies Silent Films on Organs

https://www.philly.com/news/silent-movie-organ-music-theatre-game-of-thrones-20190522.html


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« #659 : July 31, 2019, 11:46:25 AM »

Not bad: 144 private jets - including Leo DiCaprio's - flying to the Google conference for discussions of, among other things ... climate change  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


https://pagesix.com/2019/07/30/a-listers-flock-to-google-summit-in-private-jets-mega-yachts-to-talk-climate-change/?_ga=2.77661335.22675606.1564598368-2063034126.1564598368


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