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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2012, 04:21:06 PM »

I've never been there, but I get what you're saying about the film communicating a sense of location. I've wanted to go to Niagara ever since I saw this picture. I'll go sometime, although the 10 hour drive doesn't seem very inviting.

If you do go take Rt. 17 its very picturesque once you get past Liberty, NY.

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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2012, 05:24:34 PM »

Thanks for the tip. Afro

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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2012, 09:44:54 PM »

If you do go take Rt. 17 its very picturesque once you get past Liberty, NY.

haha is that a shot at me, cj?

you know I spend every summer up in the Liberty area (actually Ferndale, which is the next town over), and yes, Route 17 is very beautiful all along, even before Liberty!

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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2012, 09:48:52 PM »

I've never been there, but I get what you're saying about the film communicating a sense of location. I've wanted to go to Niagara ever since I saw this picture. I'll go sometime, although the 10 hour drive doesn't seem very inviting.

well I don't know if these little motels were really right across from the falls in 1953, but they are certainly not there now. the real estate is way too valuable. But yes, Niagara is simply beautiful, and everyone should visit it. Believe me, it is well worth the trip. But the 3 times I went, I was in Liberty, so I was already 2 hours ahead of those in New York City. so it took me 8 hours. it will take 10 hours from the city.

And when you go, make sure to bring your passport and spend a lot of time on the Canadian side. There are some great things to do on the American side (Cave of the Winds hurricane deck, Goat Island which has the some of the best views of the falls), but overall, the Canadian side is definitely more fun  Afro

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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2012, 03:57:48 AM »

haha is that a shot at me, cj?

you know I spend every summer up in the Liberty area (actually Ferndale, which is the next town over), and yes, Route 17 is very beautiful all along, even before Liberty!

Once you get past Liberty it's much, much, more rural is what I meant ;-)

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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2012, 06:21:11 AM »

Once you get past Liberty it's much, much, more rural is what I meant ;-)

it's very rural even before Liberty. I am not very familiar with the higher exits (130-113), but I know for sure that exit 113 (that's Ellenville) and lower are very rural.

it is indeed a beautiful highway  Wink

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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2012, 06:40:58 AM »

I've been there a few years ago. I stayed there a few hours during a weekend in Toronto (so yes I was on the Canadian side). I did a little video at the time, just for fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE4PiQ7ke5E

It's supposed to show what I thought about the place (ripping off one of a clockwork orange's trailers). Nature is great, but it's completely spoiled by one of the worst looking Las Vegas wannabee city of the World. Byt I liked a lot the part of the city that's not too close from the falls (next to the bus station), it has a real vintage feeling to it.

Anyway, nothing like what you see in the movie IMO.

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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2012, 10:13:15 AM »

I've been there a few years ago. I stayed there a few hours during a weekend in Toronto (so yes I was on the Canadian side). I did a little video at the time, just for fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE4PiQ7ke5E

It's supposed to show what I thought about the place (ripping off one of a clockwork orange's trailers). Nature is great, but it's completely spoiled by one of the worst looking Las Vegas wannabee city of the World. Byt I liked a lot the part of the city that's not too close from the falls (next to the bus station), it has a real vintage feeling to it.

Anyway, nothing like what you see in the movie IMO.

well if you were expecting it to be like in the movie, with a cheap motel right across from the Falls, then yes, you will be disappointed.

But I visited the falls 3 times before I saw the movie. So when I saw the movie, I knew that isn't what the area looks like today. But the falls is still about the same  Wink And even in the non-Falls scenes, somehow I just closed my eyes and felt like I was back there, and I just felt like I spent a weekend there. (Sadly, my weekends there were not with Marilyn Monroe. Was with a summer camp as a teenager, so we didn't visit the Las Vegas-type attractions either). But I never have a problem with technology and advancement, so I am definitely not bemoaning the fact that you won't find a Rainbow Cabins taking the prime real estate across from the Falls.

So as I said, if you know and love the Falls, you will love this movie much more. You'll probably still enjoy the movie even if you've never been there, but not as much. As for Marilyn Monroe's ass, you'll enjoy that whether you've been there or not.

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2012, 06:05:31 PM »

was the carillon still operating?

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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2012, 06:32:27 PM »

was the carillon still operating?

Was that a casino?

I have no idea. Didn't go into any casinos


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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2012, 04:04:48 AM »

Was that a casino?

I have no idea. Didn't go into any casinos



casino?Huh?, I'm talking about the bells ringing from the tower.

hint: (use a dictionary, pilgrim)  Grin

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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2012, 05:54:56 AM »

I had no clue what a carillon was. and since in a recent post Noodles Leone and I were talking about the casinos, and you the you asked asked if it was "operating," as in "my brother Fredo operates this establishment," I mean, is it that far off? "The Carillon" -- not a bad name for a casino, eh?  Wink

But I never saw or heard of a bell tower there


And to anyone who hasn't visited the Falls, I strongly recommend you go this summer. But don't expect anything other than the water to look like it does in the movie... That bridge going over the Niagara river is still there. And I believe they have that tram ride as well. And of course the ICONIC Maid of the Mist and Cave of the Winds.... My group once stayed in a cheapie motel very similar to the Rainbow Cabins, but it was 45 minutes away from Niagara Falls, in Buffalo, NY. I'm afraid the real estate with a view of the Falls is a bit too valuable for the cheap motels like in the movie. It's all high-rise luxury chain hotels. And there ain't nuthin wrong with that  Wink

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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2013, 01:45:03 AM »

I just watched the dvd again (this post got me in the mood! http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=11587.msg162942#msg162942 )

---- I wonder if the motel was actually right across from the falls. In the wide shots they used of the motel and the falls, it really does look like it's right there; it does not look like a processed shot. I wonder if maybe they did some trick where the bottom half of the film is one image, the top half is another, and then they put the two of them together? (I think that in some Hitchcock films like The Birds, in some scenes the action is taking place on bottom of the image while the "town" in the background is actually a painting put on the top of the image, so the top and bottom of the image are really 2 pieces put together). I'm not certain, but it really looks like the falls is right near that motel in the establishing shots. Did they really have such cheap motels right near the falls in 1953?

---- In the scene where Marilyn is going to the bus station to buy tickets, she is wearing the blue skirt and grey sweater; then later that same day, when she is brought to the check room where her husband supposedly left his shoes, she is wearing the black skirt and red jacket. I think that's a goof in continuity; those two scenes are taking place on the same day, there's no reason why she would have changed her outfit during those few hours (when she is supposedly frantic about her missing husband).


---- This movie really, really needs a blu-ray release.

On the dvd's bonus features, it says the film was restored for the dvd release, and it provides a few  side-by-side comparisons of the post-restoration and the damaged film pre-restoration. In several of the comparisons -- especially the first few -- the restored version is very obviously less bright than the original. I don't know if that was intended or not, or if it's just a by-product of the restoration, or the restorers believed that's the way the film looked originally, but I really hope the keep the proper lighting. Anyway, the dvd image is really not very good, and I really hope 20th Century Fox does a major blu-ray restoration on this movie.


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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2013, 11:30:41 AM »

Going Blu for the 60th: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/323551-tcfhe-press-release-niagara-60th-anniversary-blu-ray/

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« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2013, 12:09:31 PM »

nice graphic in your msg.

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