The Italian version is often given in books with 180 or even 182 min. The difference may be explained by intermission music, exit music, by whatever or by whoknows.
The Socorro scene was cut
Replay:The uncut Italian version as released on DVD runs 175 min. The MGM runs 178 min for including the cave scene. (shouldn't be in imo)The Italian version is often given in books with 180 or even 182 min. The difference may be explained by intermission music, exit music, by whatever or by whoknows.
And by the way, a little conspiracy theory on my behalf: I don't think they skipped adding the longer torture scene because of damage. I think the reason is, quite obviously, that as the music in the English shorter cut and Italian longer cut is completely different (different takes of the song) they couldn't properly edit the English dialogue into the scene without introducing ridiculous jumps in the music (try it yourselves!). So they just pulled a worn out print version of the sequence and slapped on the "too damaged to incorporate" excuse because they thought people would accept that excuse better.
One other reason may be that the scene works better in the shorter version.
Off topic: in the scene above with Cary Grant and Hitchcock, that's typically an example ahown when explaining letterbox format. Without seeing everything, one doesnt know Alfie is even there.