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« #30 : October 28, 2012, 05:55:17 AM »

I donīt know if this has been discussed before

"Il Triello" score is much longer on the soundtrack than on the film......

Is there a longer cut of the Mexican Standoff to match the longer version???



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« #31 : October 28, 2012, 08:15:36 AM »

I donīt know if this has been discussed before

"Il Triello" score is much longer on the soundtrack than on the film......

Is there a longer cut of the Mexican Standoff to match the longer version???

I think this depends which version of Il Triello you have.  The original 1960s track had an incorrect last half, maybe because it was in stereo, like the first half repeated.  In the early 200s the soundtracks with the doubled tracks simply tacked on the real ending to that existing one, so it's about two minutes longer.

Myself: I edited out that incorrect portion so the last part - beginning with the pseudo watch chimes - is in the correct position.

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« #32 : November 22, 2012, 09:26:48 AM »

I've read somewhere (Frayling?) that the British cut was even shorter than the American version. Any truth to this?



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« #33 : November 22, 2012, 01:04:30 PM »

I've read somewhere (Frayling?) that the British cut was even shorter than the American version. Any truth to this?

Yeah, I believe the British cut was like 148 minutes, so missing 13 minutes in addition to what was removed for the American release. On Frayling's commentary (available only on the blu ray), he points out the parts that were cut, eg. I believe the entire "Tuco in the Gun Store" sequence was removed


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« #34 : November 16, 2014, 04:11:59 PM »

But Kirk also said that producer Grimaldi assured him that Leone wanted the scene in. Which actually was the main reason.

That may be true or not, but when the film was re-released in the early 80s in Italy all the other scenes which were in the meantime cut out form the theatrical version were put back, but not the cave scene. The original release version was restored, but not the Rome premier version.

My understanding is in Italy the censors approved the complete film for showing in 1967 with a restriction on viewers aged 14 years and younger. Then in 1969 footage was cut from the film until the early 80's when the cut footage was put back for the re-release. Why was the footage cut from the film in 1969 after 2 years of showings?


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« #35 : November 17, 2014, 02:04:05 AM »

Most likely only to make it shorter. It seems in Italy often films were re-released in shorter versions. From the Spagie Massacre Time (Lucio Fulci) only the second version has survived, or is at least available.

Maybe Leonardo can tell us more about these things.


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