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« : March 16, 2012, 01:49:27 PM »



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55wZjgg58-k&t=247s



When I was watching this as a kid...I always thought that this was the original soldier that got smoked.






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« #1 : March 16, 2012, 02:15:34 PM »


You mean these characters/soldiers? same actor?

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« #2 : March 18, 2012, 05:50:52 AM »

Yes...thats the one.  I know the 2nd one looks more tanned, but so did Clint towards the end of the movie. 

Clint must of got his tan after his desert scenes ha ha



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« #3 : March 18, 2012, 08:57:48 AM »

Didn't the same guy play Shorty Larson and the dead guy on the front of the train?

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« #5 : March 19, 2012, 02:43:46 PM »

That looks more like Gian Maria Volonté (El Indio) infront of that train :D :D :D



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« #6 : March 20, 2012, 01:49:22 AM »

I always thought Shorty Larson was also Guy Calloway?
And to thow something else into the mix, I've always thought that Guy Calloway is played by 2 different actors. He looks like an entirely different person after Van Cleef shoots him in the shoulder.

Edit, it is the same actor that plays Larson and Calloway. Come to think about it, that probably isn't knew news is it;
http://www.aveleyman.com/ActorCredit.aspx?ActorID=76132

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« #7 : March 20, 2012, 05:51:20 AM »

I got myself confused....

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« #8 : March 20, 2012, 07:17:19 AM »

I guess it is the same person but I can't get over how different he looks from one shot to another.
Sorry for including this here but I didn't think it deserved it's own thread


Leone must have hired him for his ability at pulling such a ghastly face

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« #9 : March 21, 2012, 06:56:18 AM »

He sure needed a dentist !!!

That's another difference in spahettis - US films everybody has pefect teeth, maybe exception Alfonso Montoya in "Treasure of Sierra Madre.

Clint's front teeth were chipped then, Europenan actors just looked so much more realistic for the times.  I caught first 5 minutes of The Horse Soldiers last night, Wayne and Holden, had brand-new uniforms, Wayne had a rain slicker that loked new (don't even know if those existed then).  All perfectly shaved faces too, good thing in war that they had the time for that.

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« #10 : March 22, 2012, 11:36:51 PM »

Back to the original question, I'm not sure whether it's the same actor.
I can see similarities in the shape of the lips and the shape of the mouth in general but the two scenes require such different acting and angles etc that it is hard to tell. If I had to bet my family jewels on it, I'd say no.

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« #11 : March 23, 2012, 01:42:53 AM »

That's another difference in spahettis - US films everybody has pefect teeth, maybe exception Alfonso Montoya in "Treasure of Sierra Madre.

Clint's front teeth were chipped then, Europenan actors just looked so much more realistic for the times.  I caught first 5 minutes of The Horse Soldiers last night, Wayne and Holden, had brand-new uniforms, Wayne had a rain slicker that loked new (don't even know if those existed then).  All perfectly shaved faces too, good thing in war that they had the time for that.

If you want to compare US westerns with SWs, you should only compare films which were made in the same years. The US westerns of the 2nd half of the 60s looked similar "atmospheric" than their Spaghetti counterparts.

And SW actors had also mostly perfect teeth, which makes a fine contrast to their very dirty clothes. Just take Tuco.


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« #12 : March 24, 2012, 12:07:49 PM »

I guess it is the same person but I can't get over how different he looks from one shot to another.
Sorry for including this here but I didn't think it deserved it's own thread


Leone must have hired him for his ability at pulling such a ghastly face

Someone missed a bet in not casting him as Billy the Kid.



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« #13 : March 28, 2012, 08:25:33 PM »

Am watching Waterloo and Mr. Conroy has a prominent bit.



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« #14 : March 29, 2012, 03:41:47 AM »

Am watching Waterloo and Mr. Conroy has a prominent bit.
Groggy, are you sure? Just checked Waterloo on IMDB and in fact he is not listed, neither under credited nor uncredited actors for this movie. Moreover, under William Conroy on IMDB, you'll find a lot of movies (including of course GBU) he was in, but all uncredited. However, one thing is for sure: the union soldier (name unknown) and the dying soldier (William Conroy) are two different actors.

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