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« on: September 27, 2012, 06:29:35 AM »

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037101/

Murder, My Sweet (1944)



Plot synopsis and cast, courtesy of imdb

After being hired to find an ex-con's former girlfriend, Philip Marlowe is drawn into a deeply complex web of mystery and deceit.




Dick Powell    ...   Philip Marlowe
    Claire Trevor    ...   Mrs.Helen Grayle
    Anne Shirley    ...   Ann Grayle
    Otto Kruger    ...   Jules Amthor
    Mike Mazurki    ...   Moose Malloy
    Miles Mander    ...   Mr. Grayle
    Douglas Walton    ...   Lindsay Marriott
    Donald Douglas    ...   Police Lieutenant Randall (as Don Douglas)
    Ralf Harolde    ...   Dr. Sonderborg
    Esther Howard    ...   Jessie Florian


Here are the previous posts on this movie:

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg147410#msg147410

titoli:


Murder My Sweet (1944) Though it is the 3d vision of the movie it was my first in english. And I didn't remember it took so many liberties with the plot which, in spite of my having read the novel repeatedly, I couldn't follow in depth. There was the good idea of making Ann Riordan Mr. Grayle's daughter, but eliminating the character completely, like Richards did, was even better. And that's about that. The gimmick of the temporary cecity of Marlowe's is just finalized to the final cheesy scene. The actors. As I said, Powell is my favourite Marlowe with Garner. But probably comes second. The girl playing Anne Riordan is perfect but, as said, the character is disposable. I take Trevor over Rampling just because I like her best. And I take O'Halloran over Mazurki because Moose is, literally, true to his name: Mazurki gives too much passion to a character who shows he has it in store only in the final meeting with Velma. The sanatorium scene is perfect, with a great Powell. That makes me give it a 8\10: still a vote under Richards's version.  

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cigar joe::




Watched this today, I too, even though I haven't read the book in years, was wondering why they deviated so much from the plot. I'll agree that in seeing it again that O"Halloran is the superior Malloy, thought I do like the "Pepper's Ghost" entrance of Malloy that is employed in this interpretation, the Richards film is superior and I believe more faithful to the book.  

This version ties up the loose ends in a beach house rather than on the gambling ship and the Burnette character is absent.  It also has a lame epilogue catering to the female audience.

Powell is great as Marlowe pretty much as I pictured him in my minds eye as I remember the book (Mitchum was just a tad too old and a tad too iconic, unfortunately), and I'll go with Rampling also she had a devious look in her eyes, Trevor wasn't as believable to me she played it a bit to "upper crust", all in all though, I prefer all the rest of the actors in the Richards version. 8/10 agreed.


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titoli:



What's your choice: Garner or Powell?

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http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg147910#msg147910

cigar joe


Hard to say, it just doesn't feel right without fedora's or Black & White, you have to have one or the other. Richards film proves you can do it in color, and Aldrich's "Kiss Me Deadly" updates Hammer and he's not wearing a fedora.

If Garner's film would have been in the right time frame I'd definitely say Garner.

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titoli:


In fact I'm only referring to the actor, not to the movie, as Garner's movie can't compare to Powell's or Mitchum's or (but I should watch it again) Hawks'.

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http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg147949#msg147949

cigar joe



I'm gonna have to read the novel again to have the literary Marlowe fresh in my mind to be able to be definitive about it.


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cigar joe   posted screen caps of the movie here http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg147951#msg147951

and in the following post, dj gave cj's screen caps 3 thumbs up
(I guess dj always feels the need to best Ebert  Tongue)

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ttp://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg149814#msg149814

cigar joe:

OK reviving this discussion.

For clarification and ease I'll abbreviate the film titles FML = Farewell My Lovely, and MMS = Murder My Sweet

Just finished reading Chandler's "Farewell My Lovely" and with the recent viewings of both films fresh in my mind I have to admit that they both deviate from the novel quite a bit in different areas.

Moose Malloy gets more memorable screen time in FML he becomes an almost sympathetic character in FML you end up caring for the dumb lug, less so in MMS. In the novel you barely get the character at all, which is reflected in MMS.

The character Ann Riordan is eliminated entirely from FML. The most likely reason being Mitchum's age, he's portrayed as a Marlowe in his declining years.

The whole scenario of how Marlowe finds Jessie Florian in FML is not in the book what is in the book is the hotel, and a clerk finds Florian with a City Directory.

The whole flashback sequence with the temporarily blinded Marlowe is a fabrication in MMS. But the hint of the love affair with Riordan is in the novel.

In novel there are two cops that Marlowe has to deal with Nulty, of LAPD and Randal of the Bay City Police in FML they are combined into just Nulty played by Ireland, in MYS the main cop is Randal.

Amthor in the novel is a psychic, in FML he becomes a she and a notorious LA madam and Amthor's and Dr, Sonderborg's sequences in the novel are combined into the same house, in MMS I think he's still a psychic but the way its played out in the novel is much more elaborately detailed and memorable than what is in the film. Interestingly there is a second big bruiser in the novel a henchman of Amthor called The Indian.

In the novel there are two ships off shore one is a whorehouse ship, one is a gambling ship. In FML there is only one ship, in MMS no ship.

In the novel the final denouement between Malloy and Velma takes place in Marlowe's apartment, she puts five bullets in him and escapes. In MMS it takes place in a beach house and Malloy and Velma kill each other and Marlowe is temporarily blinded by a close gunshot. In FML it takes place in Brunette's office on the gambling ship
and Malloy and Velma both die too.

In the novel Velma disappears again, becomes a brunette and is singing in a band again like what she used to do a Florian's but she is finally spotted by a cop back east who approaches her in the dressing room and confronts her, she guns him down then kills herself.










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