Speaking of which, how good of a movie IS The Lady From Shanghai? I got it on my to do list...lol
There's no reason for you, for me I understand what they do. And there are different reasons for Holden, for Borgnine and for the brothers. The brothers maybe don't understand at all, maybe only for the "Why not?", but they do.
And even if there were no explainable reason, sometimes people do stuff they would never do the other day, o never if they had a few minutes more to think about it. But in TWB I have no question about that, and because that the film is able to overwhelm me. If you don't understand the film on an emotional level, than of course it may only be a strange or odd movie with some technical brilliance.
Actually it is indeed both. And also transcends the genre. There are others ...
Moorman suggests dumping all your reviews into a "Spikeopath's Western Reviews/Archive" new topic much like titoli has his "lil Duce" reviews, then we can retrieve them in a "trickle in" to the Western Index at our leisure, it would save me work too, it took about an hour and a half to index what I did this morning.
Whatever you think best and whatever is easier for you mods. I only want that the index sections show as many Westerns as possible, that there be links available for anyone interested in a new viewing - or having themselves seen a little discussed one can post and damn my review for it
I guess I should postpone my plans to bring all my noir reviews over then
Not here to make waves, just looking for a Western loving home to lay my head, and if the noir gang make a niche in the OT section then I'll obviously be active there. But not if it's going to cheese any of you guys off.
great western, not a great film like OUTIW
STANTON FTW!!!!!!!!
Ok, there are different reasons: a pity though it is never explained or hinted what they may be.
A pity though too that the irrational thing they decide to do is to redeem themselves in the eyes of the viewers (the less smart ones, of course). What if instead they decided that Angel has nothing to do with them and that Mapache is a sob as they are? What would happen is that you wouldn't have the good bad gringos turning into heroes and a more realistic movie bound to bomb, or almost, at the box office. (Not counting an excuse less to do the slow motion orgy). These are the usual hollywooden recipes of popular culture, which have nothing to do with realism: which is good, to a point: but there lies the difference between Art and pop culture.
For The Win
I prefer movies which don't explain me everything in dialogues, but without these all explaining dialogues the films are of course more ambiguous, and risk that some don't get it. In the end if there are no obvious and simple explanations everyone is free to find some fitting ones. And when you don't get it you can't assume that others shouldn't get i either
I think it is a good sign that TWB isn't hailed by everyone, that there are still debates about it, which means the film still "lives".
1. One of the strenghts of the ending is of course that there is some irrationality about it, which is then boosted by the irrational directing of the overdone bloodshed.
2. What if Charles Bronson would have been killed in the first scene of OUTW? Then we would have got a more realistic movie etc etc ... also one we probably wouldn't have cared for.
3. TWB is not a realistic movie, and I'm actually not very interested in realistic genre movies.
4. TWB is art as long as some people love it, as long as TWB "speaks" to them.
I haven't seen it in a while, you guys are gona make me rewatch it.