GBU Special edition DVD and Blu Ray -- Breakdown of Restored Scenes

[cigar joe]

I assume for most people there wasn't a narrative gap.
The way the scene which introduces LvC in the prison camp is shot made for me always clear that he wasn't there by happenstance, but obviously only for the purpose to have there the best chance to find Carson. When I first read about the Fort scene it only confirmed what I already had assumed.

Yea that is the way I always figured it too.

[Groggy]

The main thing I get from Angel Eyes' sudden appearance at the camp is that Blondie and Tuco are in trouble. Forgot plot concerns.

[dave jenkins]

I really don't know anything about audio and therefore my comments here have stuck to picture quality. My understanding is that the original English mono is available on the dvd and BR . . .

Nope. http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=11160.0

[drinkanddestroy]

Nope. http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=11160.0

But the old dvd of the 161MV has the original mono audio, correct? As well as the proper gunshots, and the deleted scenes as special features with Italian dub and English subtitles. And it's dirt cheap (I bought it used on eBay, I think it was like 3 dollars). So that disc should satisfy everyone! Use the BR for the terrific Frayling commentary and extra features, and the old dvd for the movie  

[Groggy]

Sounds fair to me.

[Novecento]

Nope. http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=11160.0

At least the "mono" version allows you to watch it without the audio jumping around based on the speaker's profile relative to the camera.

[stanton]

The main thing I get from Angel Eyes' sudden appearance at the camp is that Blondie and Tuco are in trouble. Forgot plot concerns.

That too, of course ...

[iceman]

The gun shop scene is surely absolutely unimportant for the film's narrative (except for those of course who may say without this scene we do not know where Tuco got his gun ), but it is a hell of a scene, it is Leone at his best for both directing and storytelling (within that scene). It is exactly such a scene which shows Leone's mastership, and which shows how different his films were back then.
And then again the loss of this scene would maybe damage the film's rhythm considerably.

D&d I can't believe that you would sacrifice such an essential Leone scene.

The gun shop scene is important...I dont think people watching the film would have even thought about where Tuco got his gun from...they would assume he got it from somewhere in the town...what is important is that it shows Tuco to be as good or maybe almost as good with a gun as Angel eyes and Blondie, making the final Trio scene even more exciting...I seem to remember first thinking..."this should be bloody good" when they moved into the centre circle......

ICE

[stanton]

I dont think people watching the film would have even thought about where Tuco got his gun from...they would assume he got it from somewhere in the town...

Hmm ... that was obviously only a joke from me ...

[drinkanddestroy]

one thing about Westerns, no matter how broke someone is in one scene, by the next scene he always somehow manages to have a horse, a gun, and a gun belt full of bullets (not that he needs 'em cuz nobody ever reloads; those 6 bullets in the chamber last forever  ) Then again, Tuco doesn't have a gun belt, he keeps his gun in his pocket on a string around his neck. I guess he must keep his bullets in his other pocket.... though we never see 'em  


Now writing all this shit starts me thinking: when Tuco is taken prisoner, he obviously doesn't have a gun anymore; then when he jumps off the train, he tries breaking his handcuffs with Wallace's pistol but uis unable to, and throws the pistol away in frustration. Then when he cuts loose and jumps onto the next train, he somehow has a pistol by the time he arrives in the next town and goes to take a bath... and somehow he also has the string that he used for his pistol before he was taken prisoner! And not only that, but he must have somehow gotten ahold of the same pistol he had before, cuz Blondie recognized that it was Tuco firing just by the sound of the pistol! Well, I'd sure like to know how Tuco got ahold of that shit by the time he reached he went to take a bath in the bombed out hotel???

[drinkanddestroy]

 re: the picture quality of the blu ray: I just noticed that DVD Beaver only shows the Italian Blu Ray disc http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare10/the_good_the_bad_and_the_ugly_.htm cuz he just says that he assumes it will look exactly like the American BR. I haven't seen any BR version besides the American, but I've read some of you here who believe the Italian BR is much better, and if that's correct, then maybe you should contact Beaver and tell him to get his shit together and actually make a comparison with the American BR cuz it is NOT the same as the Italian BR?
(btw, from the screen caps and Tooze's comments, it looks like the faces on that Italian BR are also very red (just as they are on the American BR)

[Cusser]

Of course all the confiscated weaopns were on that train that Tuco jumped on, duh !!!

Besides: Blondie recognizes the cadence of Tuco's firing.  Five shots, then one.


Of course, I always felt that since Tuco knew so much about pistols, that he could've gotten Wallace's to work.

[drinkanddestroy]

same thing with TMWNN in FOD: he is in hiding and stuck in the mine shaft, in a town with virtually no commerce or gun shops, yet somehow he has an endless supply of bullets  

that's part of the "language of the Western" -- horses, guns, and bullets are always magically "there," with no questions asked  

[cigar joe]

one thing about Westerns, no matter how broke someone is in one scene, by the next scene he always somehow manages to have a horse, a gun, and a gun belt full of bullets (not that he needs 'em cuz nobody ever reloads; those 6 bullets in the chamber last forever  ) Then again, Tuco doesn't have a gun belt, he keeps his gun in his pocket on a string around his neck. I guess he must keep his bullets in his other pocket.... though we never see 'em  


Now writing all this shit starts me thinking: when Tuco is taken prisoner, he obviously doesn't have a gun anymore; then when he jumps off the train, he tries breaking his handcuffs with Wallace's pistol but uis unable to, and throws the pistol away in frustration. Then when he cuts loose and jumps onto the next train, he somehow has a pistol by the time he arrives in the next town and goes to take a bath... and somehow he also has the string that he used for his pistol before he was taken prisoner! And not only that, but he must have somehow gotten ahold of the same pistol he had before, cuz Blondie recognized that it was Tuco firing just by the sound of the pistol! Well, I'd sure like to know how Tuco got ahold of that shit by the time he reached he went to take a bath in the bombed out hotel???

You must never have read the Timeline thread or the Every Gun Makes its own Tune thread, or you'd know the answers to your questions. 

[drinkanddestroy]

You must never have read the Timeline thread or the Every Gun Makes its own Tune thread, or you'd know the answers to your questions. 

I read parts of the former but have never seen the latter