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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2013, 06:26:53 AM »

Everytime I watch the yesterday scene with De Niro looking into the mirror, I start to feel funny....someone told me they're called emotions or something like that. Anyone else feel them?  Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2013, 04:40:18 PM »

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All I can do is pity you for missing out on the indescribable pleasure you are missing out on by being unable to enjoy those scenes.

Why pity me? I get pleasure out of (most) of the rest of the movie.

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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2013, 06:05:30 PM »

He probably meant there's more emotion to be felt with the 1968 scenes due to the regret, betrayal, and nostalgia felt by the characters.

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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2013, 07:00:16 PM »

In theory you are correct.

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2013, 08:18:48 PM »

He probably meant there's more emotion to be felt with the 1968 scenes due to the regret, betrayal, and nostalgia felt by the characters.

who's he? me?

I didn't mean that at all

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2013, 08:50:53 PM »

who's he? me?

I didn't mean that at all
My bad, I was actually speaking from my own point of view, what I said about the 1968 scenes are how I view them.

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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2013, 09:41:45 PM »

I always wonder if there was more to story arc of Pesci in the hotel foyer.

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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2013, 09:43:52 PM »

I always wonder if there was more to story arc of Pesci in the hotel foyer.

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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2013, 09:51:52 PM »

I always wonder if there was more to story arc of Pesci in the hotel foyer.

that's probably the most common question about "what footage is missing from OUATIA"? (along with the frisbee scene).


But based on everything I have read, there is nothing more to it. The point is that Pesci, the mafia head, is going to the hospital room, to meet with Treat Williams and/or James Woods, indicating that the mafia is getting involved in organized labor and/or Woods is already plotting to move on to bigger and better things.

It's a quick, subtle point; Leone likes what he called "indirect cinema," where you aren't told something directly but figure it out from what you are shown

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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2013, 12:52:22 AM »

It's likely that there was more, I mean the man shot 10 hours of footage, and maybe a couple of minutes could've gone into the story arc of Pesci. Leone could've cut it out because of the "indirect cinema" that he liked to incorporate.

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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2013, 01:59:31 AM »

It's likely that there was more, I mean the man shot 10 hours of footage, and maybe a couple of minutes could've gone into the story arc of Pesci. Leone could've cut it out because of the "indirect cinema" that he liked to incorporate.

well if, as Frayling says, there was 6-10 hours of usable footage (for an originally-intended 2-part movie), then there theoretically could be more to anything. But none of the 45-50 minutes of footage that Leone reluctantly had to remove (to get the movie down to 229-minutes) includes anything further on that scene with Pesci. So the point is that (no matter what he may have thought at the time of shooting, at least by the time of the movie's editing and release) Leone did not intend for there to be anything further about that.

I also thought that scene was a bit strange at first, but when watching this movie, there is soooo much that is hard to pick up on until later viewings. I am fully satisfied that that scene with Pesci at the hospital elevator is a simple, quick way of telling us that the mafia is getting involved with organized labor, and/or that the seeds are being sown for Max's moving on to bigger and better thngs

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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2013, 02:10:35 AM »

Just curious, how many times have you seen OUATIA?

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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2013, 03:27:27 AM »

that's probably the most common question about "what footage is missing from OUATIA"? (along with the frisbee scene).


But based on everything I have read, there is nothing more to it. The point is that Pesci, the mafia head, is going to the hospital room, to meet with Treat Williams and/or James Woods, indicating that the mafia is getting involved in organized labor and/or Woods is already plotting to move on to bigger and better things.

It's a quick, subtle point; Leone likes what he called "indirect cinema," where you aren't told something directly but figure it out from what you are shown

Only that for this scene nobody figured it out. It is simply irritating.

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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2013, 03:32:09 AM »

as with all of Leone's movies, I have seen OUATIA way more times than I can keep track of. If I was forced to ballpark a guess, I'd say about 20 times



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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2013, 03:36:05 AM »

Only that for this scene nobody figured it out. It is simply irritating.

yeah, I didn't figure it out on my own either, until I had it explained to me.  didn't fully understand how Max implemented his getaway plan either until I discussed it here.

Perhaps part of that uncertainty/irritation with this scene (and maybe some others) comes from knowing that Leone was forced to cut some footage to get the movie down to 229 minutes; so we are left wondering, "maybe there is some deleted footage that further explains Scene X, or Issue X."

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