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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2012, 02:48:05 AM »

No Leone in the top 50 Shocked A travesty! A travesty I say.

...oh, and the reign of Citizen Kane is over.

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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2012, 02:48:24 AM »

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/50-greatest-films-all-time

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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2012, 02:57:06 AM »

Thanks for posting!I am unable to open that link, so I will just copy and paste the list here. (IMO it's always better to have stuff actually written here, if possible, rather than using links, since they often get screwed up Wink)

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SIGHT & SOUND TOP 10 MOVIES OF ALL-TIME

CRITICS LIST:

1. "Vertigo"
2. "Citizen Kane"
3. "Tokyo Story"
4. "The Rules of the Game"
5. "Sunrise"
6. "2001: A Space Odyssey"
7. "The Searchers"
8. "Man With a Movie Camera"
9. "The Passion of Joan of Arc"
10. "8 1/2"


Directors List:
1. "Tokyo Story"
2. "2001: A Space Odyssey"
2. "Citizen Kane"
4. "8 1/2"
5. "Taxi Driver"
6. "Apocalypse Now"
7. "The Godfather"
7. "Vertigo"
9. "The Mirror"
10. "Bicycle Thieves"


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BFI top 50 movies of all-time: (there are actually 52 movies on the list, cuz 3 movies were tied with the 50th highest vote total)

1. Vertigo(191 votes)
2. Citizen Kane (157 votes)
3. Tokyo Story(107 votes)
4. La Rčgle du jeu (100 votes)
5. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (93 votes)
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (90 votes)
7. The Searchers (78 votes)
8. Man with a Movie Camera (68 votes)
9. The Passion of Joan of Arc(65 votes)
10. 8˝ (64 votes)
11. Battleship Potemkin (63 votes)
12. L’Atalante (58 votes)
13. Breathless (57 votes)
14. Apocalypse Now (53 votes)
15. Late Spring (50 votes)
16. Au hasard Balthazar (49 votes)
17= Seven Samurai (48 votes)
17= Persona (48 votes)
19. Mirror (47 votes)
20. Singin’ in the Rain (46 votes)
21= L’avventura (43 votes)
21= Le Mépris (43 votes)
21= The Godfather (43 votes)
24= Ordet (42 votes)
24= In the Mood for Love (42 votes)
26= Rashomon (41 votes)
26= Andrei Rublev (41 votes)
28. Mulholland Dr. (40 votes)
29= Stalker (39 votes)
29= Shoah (39 votes)
31= The Godfather Part II (38 votes)
31= Taxi Driver (38 votes)
33. Bicycle Thieves (37 votes)
34. The General (35 votes)
35= Metropolis (34 votes)
35= Psycho (34 votes)
35= Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce 1080 Bruxelles (34 votes)
35= Sátántangó (34 votes)
39= The 400 Blows (33 votes)
39= La dolce vita (33 votes)
41. Journey to Italy (32 votes)
42= Pather Panchali (31 votes)
42= Some Like It Hot (31 votes)
42= Gertrud (31 votes)
42= Pierrot le fou (31 votes)
42= Play Time (31 votes)
42= Close-Up (31 votes)
48= The Battle of Algiers (30 votes)
48= Histoire(s) du cinéma (30 votes)
50= City Lights (29 votes)
50= Ugetsu monogatari (29 votes)
50= La Jetée (29 votes)


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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2012, 03:14:15 AM »


-- There should be multiple Leone movies on here

 -- I am shocked, shocked to see that there's no GFII going on here! And that GF did not make the critics list.

--  I've never understood the obsession with The Searchers. It's beautiful visually, but otherwise not a great movie. I like it less than at least 6 other John Ford Westerns, 8 other John Wayne Westerns, and more AW's overall than I can count. It doesn't belong anywhere near any list of greatest AW's of all-time, let alone greatest movies of all-time.

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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2012, 03:19:14 AM »

Random observations:

If I count correctly, Godard has more films in top 50 than any other director: four.   

The first Chaplin film is only on the (tied) 50th place.

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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2012, 03:23:26 AM »

I've never understood the obsession with The Rules of the Game. But then again, I only saw it once at the age of sixteen or so. Maybe I should give it another chance.

The Passion of Joan of Arc remains the only film in the top ten that I have not seen. Gotta fix that asap.

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2012, 12:24:39 PM »

I've never understood the obsession with The Rules of the Game. But then again, I only saw it once at the age of sixteen or so. Maybe I should give it another chance.


Watch it again. I could not see it either when I was young, but now I see.

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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2012, 08:13:42 AM »

The list is quite interesting not only for the films on it, but also for the films not on it. And there is no film amongst the top 50 which I would call mediocre or even bad (like on most other lists), or which I would call an overrated classic. I don't like them all. but at least I have a lot of respect for those I don't like that much.

As usual the critic's list is way too conservative for my taste with only 6 films from the last 30 years (and 2 of them are more or less documentaries) , but 6 silent films from the 20s. And another silent one from the 30s (City Lights).

That OuTW does not make the list is a surprise for me.



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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2012, 08:17:06 AM »

Surprisingly there are 5 I haven't seen. One of them is Akerman's Jeanne Dielman, which is also for me the greatest surprise on the list.

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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2012, 09:46:29 AM »

I see that on the BFI Top 50 movies list, the top 10 is identical to the Sight & Sound Critics ten best movies list. Does that mean that the BFI list used the exact same voting results as the Sight & Sound Critics Poll? So the Sight & Sound Critics Poll is basically just a chopped version of the BFI list?

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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2012, 10:02:44 AM »

It's the same list.

The BFI is the publisher of Sight and Sound

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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2012, 10:05:10 AM »

My wife just rented Vertigo so we can give it a good reappraisal  Afro

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« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2012, 11:23:22 AM »

It's the same list.

The BFI is the publisher of Sight and Sound

I figured.

So the Top 50 list is based entirely on critics, and no directors.

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« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2012, 11:40:24 AM »

"A Few Calm Words About the List," by Roger Ebert http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2012/08/a_few_calm_words_about_the_lis.html

Much of Ebert's article is based on his presumption -- which, as we've discussed previously, I completely disagree with -- that the list is about one film per director.


As for the voting: does anyone know what format they used for voting? Ie. do they just ask the voters to list their top 50 films, and the film that appears on the most lists is #1, the one that appears on the second most lists is #2, etc.? Or is a film's seeding affected by it's rank in a particular list, so that eg. a film will get more credit for a voter saying it's the 5th best movie ever, than if that voter had said it's the 10th best movie ever?

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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2012, 12:23:10 PM »

Read the BFI site.
10 films each, no limitations, each film one point

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