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« #15 : November 14, 2020, 09:44:44 AM »

That is a very tempting Blu-Ray collection with all those extras. I've got 'Affair In Trinidad' on my You Tube watch-list so I will be watching Glenn Ford in that one soon.
Affair is the weak one according to my reckoning, but I'm seriously considering getting the set even though I already have 711 Ocean Drive on blu. I think The Mob is brilliant (although really not a noir), and, you may know, Murder By Contract is off-the-charts good.



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« #16 : November 14, 2020, 10:23:46 AM »

Affair is the weak one according to my reckoning, but I'm seriously considering getting the set even though I already have 711 Ocean Drive on blu. I think The Mob is brilliant (although really not a noir), and, you may know, Murder By Contract is off-the-charts good.

I think I'll give these all a try now you've whetted my appetite as all the films seem to be available on You Tube. I had 'Affair' down already because IMDb include Mystery under it's categories for it.

I notice IMDb include Film Noir in it's categories for 'The Mob' but I'm a bit sceptical about their categories sometimes. For instance they have 'Dangerous Crossing' as a Film Noir which I have just watched. It's a good mystery with Jeanne Crain giving a good performance as a frightened woman aboard ship. But not really Noir at all I would have thought. I bet the real Noir aficionados on here would agree with me on that.



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« #17 : November 15, 2020, 01:48:52 PM »

"Noir" is predominantly a marketing term now. Dangerous Crossing is a straight up Woman's Picture. They're putting the noir label on anything they can, but I don't mind, as it means they're releasing things they wouldn't have released otherwise.



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« #18 : November 17, 2020, 05:59:16 AM »

"Noir" is predominantly a marketing term now. Dangerous Crossing is a straight up Woman's Picture. They're putting the noir label on anything they can, but I don't mind, as it means they're releasing things they wouldn't have released otherwise.

I've come to the conclusion that Noir is Pan Generic and subjective. Its a dark story told in a visually stylistic manner with enough of those elements that appeal to an individual that will tip (or tune) it Noir for them.

For me Dangerous Crossing is a Woman's Noir. Though in reality over 95% of violent crimes are committed by men. Realistic dark stories about women will be about adultery, fraud, theft, bunco, vice, addiction, non violent crimes.

In a Lonely Place and Sweet Smell of Success are Drama Noirs for me.

I agree that "Noir" has become a marketing tool.



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« #19 : November 17, 2020, 10:07:20 PM »

Even though it is a woman who is being threatened in 'Dangerous Crossing' I still find it difficult to accept it as a Noir of any description. Jeanne Crain's character doesn't have any flaws and is left with a happy ending.

By contrast Glenn Ford is a male who has been endangered in 'Framed.' He may honest about money but he's a drunken slob. At the end he keeps his integrity by giving away his reward money. But there's no happy ending for him. He is still searching as drifters do and he will continue be a drunken slob in all probability.


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« #20 : March 20, 2021, 07:50:01 AM »

Worth a watching. But just one. A noir only plotwise, it goes ashamble after the murder and I can't count the times I laughed at the musical comment and some of Ford's faces, and at the incredible plot twists, quite boring. Carter acts perfectly and is good-looking, can't understand the criticism towards her. 6/10


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