Van der Graaf Generator

[dave jenkins]

Yeah, I noticed that a few days ago. Great, great versions, and most are pretty different from the album versions, many are even better than the album versions.

I love all the BBC stuff, also from other bands and musicians.

Agreed. The policy of making bands record in the BBC's studios produced interesting alt versions of just about anything ever assayed. I don't know if it was a case of someone different engineering the things, limitations of the studio, rearrangements or whatever, but the different versions are almost always interesting. Not necessarily better than the album cuts . . . just different. But, as you say, sometimes better too.

[dave jenkins]

New studio release coming: https://www.amazon.co.uk/NOT-DISTURB-Van-Graaf-Generator/dp/B01HD34PSO/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1468173199&sr=1-1&keywords=van+der+graaf+generator

Holy crap, and there's this too: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Live-Rockpalast-Peter-Hammill-Group/dp/B00FU5G6BM/ref=pd_bxgy_15_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=10SYXNRJYFMRWJWFF2A6

[stanton]

Holy crap, and there's this too: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Live-Rockpalast-Peter-Hammill-Group/dp/B00FU5G6BM/ref=pd_bxgy_15_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=10SYXNRJYFMRWJWFF2A6

Great, than I can replace the VHS tape of this concert.

[dave jenkins]

Great, than I can replace the VHS tape of this concert.

You've already got the CD too? How did you do that?

[stanton]

You've already got the CD too? How did you do that?

I have a several concerts from PH and VdGG on CD or (now) on MP3 or (then) on Audio-Tape. From time to time I love to listen to this lo-fi mono stuff. There is an incredible energy in the live versions, and the Hammill motto of "controlled chaos" comes through very lively.

Actually, if one wanted, one could get every concert that was recorded by hardcore fans as a bootleg CD-R release with cover. Many of these are a bit difficult to listen too though.

[dave jenkins]

Actually, if one wanted, one could get every concert that was recorded by hardcore fans as a bootleg CD-R release with cover. Many of these are a bit difficult to listen too though.

I have all the officially released Hammill live stuff, and a lot of the VDGG. I've seen Hammill live only once, in Tokyo. I think his live stuff is ALWAYS better than what he does in the studio (although his studio work is good too). I like getting recordings/videos of his live work, but there's so much of it that there's no reason to settle for sub-par releases.

[dave jenkins]

New studio release coming: https://www.amazon.co.uk/NOT-DISTURB-Van-Graaf-Generator/dp/B01HD34PSO/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1468173199&sr=1-1&keywords=van+der+graaf+generator

CD in da house!

[stanton]

CD in da house!

And? Do you like it?

[dave jenkins]

I've only had time to listen to the first 2 tracks, but yeah, so far, so good.

[dave jenkins]

Wow! https://www.amazon.com/Live-Rockpalast-2005-Leverkusen/dp/B07CNYTQ5B/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527884648&sr=8-1&keywords=van+der+graaf+generator+rockpalast

Ordered!

[stanton]

Yes, it's great.
I love this recording. It is so much more powerful than the RFH concert on the Real Time CD. Unfortunately basically the same track list, only 3 songs less. sigh ...

... and I was there (and the group did not survive this)

[dave jenkins]

Yes, it's great.
I love this recording. It is so much more powerful than the RFH concert on the Real Time CD. Unfortunately basically the same track list, only 3 songs less. sigh ...

... and I was there (and the group did not survive this)

The point is, you get the video with this release. (Btw, did you get the Japanese release of Real Time with the extra disc? Why not, sucker!)

[stanton]

The point is, you get the video with this release. (Btw, did you get the Japanese release of Real Time with the extra disc? Why not, sucker!)

Cause I ducked?

Really an extra disc? What's on it?

Of course I knew that I will also get the video, but that (and complete) was already easy to get on DVD-R via trading or as a download. And I had it already on VHS since, since ... I don't remember, but more than 10 years.

[stanton]

Ok, I checked Wiki. Strange, but I'm not sure if I ever heard if these Jap CD. Of course I have several bootlegs from that tour, and at least every track played once.

Are these extra tracks quality recordings, or taken from the numerous bootlegs?

[dave jenkins]

Ok, I checked Wiki. Strange, but I'm not sure if I ever heard if these Jap CD. Of course I have several bootlegs from that tour, and at least every track played once.

Are these extra tracks quality recordings, or taken from the numerous bootlegs?

https://web-cache.chocomaru.com/pc5/jplayer_ssl.html?QU665&%7Ers20ncs02&EJ66464372&667&nrrv%3C%29%29qqq%28gkg%7Cih%28ei%28lv&734%3E75%3E%3E01

My recollection is that these are from sound checks prior to the shows. It may well be that these have been widely bootlegged.