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They Live by Night (1948)
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040872/?ref_=nv_sr_2
They Live by Night
(1948)
Crew, courtesy of IMDB
Nicholas Ray – Director
John Houseman – Producer
Dore Schary – Executive Producer (uncredited)
Writing credits:
Charles Schnee (screenplay)
Nicholas Ray (adaptation)
Edward Anderson (novel "Thieves Like Us")
Cast, courtesy of Wikipedia
Cathy O'Donnell as Catherine "Keechie" Mobley
Farley Granger as Arthur "Bowie" Bowers
Howard Da Silva as Chicamaw "One-Eye" Mobley
Jay C. Flippen as Henry "T-Dub" Mansfield
Helen Craig as Mattie
Will Wright as Mobley
William Phipps as Young Farmer
Ian Wolfe as Hawkins
Harry Harvey as Hagenheimer
Marie Bryant as Singer
Will Lee as Jeweler
James Nolan as Schreiber
Charles Meredith as Comm. Hubbell
Teddy Infuhr as Alvin
Byron Foulger as Lambert
Here are previous posts on this movie from the Film Noir Discussion Thread:
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http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg120233#msg120233
moviesceleton:
They Live by Night
(1948) - 7.5/10
A good film noir. Okay, maybe it could be 8/10.
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http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg120235#msg120235
dave jenkins:
Could you elaborate? I've had the DVD for some time but I can never quite bring myself to watch it because 1) I dislike Farley Granger; and 2) I really hate Cathy O'donnell. Also, I've seen Altman's version (Thieves Like Us) and I don't really feel like heading back into such territory again. Am I thinking wrong?
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moviesceleton:
I guess the story is pretty much the same in Altman's version. I can't say this would be the most original movie ever (or even if it was at some point it isn't anymore after numerous copycats) but the use of helicopter shots in action scenes is something worth noticing. Also note not showing the heist, an idea that has since been used for example in Reservoir Dogs. Neither one of the main couple (Farley Granger/Cathy O'Donnell) is really personal (in "star" sense) but that doesn't mean they would be dull; I think their relationship is interesting to follow. What can I say? It's a well-written, well-directed and well-acted although not overly original crime movie. Is it worth your time? Well, that depends on what else you have in your shelf.
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http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg145122#msg145122
titoli:
They Live By Night
(1948) I don't like movies where you guess that is gonna go wrong for the protagonist from the start: just look at Granger's face. I also don't like all that molasses: much of it could have been cut off, especially toward the end. I also don't like Granger, not masculine enough. A pity because for the rest the movie is perfect, with great performances by all the other actors. The direction is maybe Ray's best. The score negligible. 7\10
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http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg145130#msg145130
dave jenkins:
(quotes titoli's comment "I also don't like Granger, not masculine enough." and replies:)
He was just a place holder until Anthony Perkins could be found.
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titoli:
(quotes DJ's comment above "He was just a plce holder until Anthony Perkins could be found" and replies:)
I don't know, I don't think they have much in common: Perkins is a good actor, he's not. Maybe I should watch again Senso (a film I don't like, like all melodramas). Probably because of being dubbed is more tolerable there.
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http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg150671#msg150671
cigar joe:
They Live By Night
(1949) Dir Nicholas Ray, with Farley Granger, Cathy O'Donnell, Howard Da Silva, Jay C. Flippen, Helen Craig, and Will Wright. This Noir balances better the romance and Noir elements than Moontide did, it has some great sequences with the three main male leads. Granger is Kid Bowie, Howard Da Silva is One-Eye Chickamaw, overly sensitive about having only one eye, goes ballistic everytime a radio announcer calls him One-Eye, lol, and , Jay C. Flippen is T Dub the older wiser con, O'Donnell is young "hillbilly" Keehie.
The three cons break out of prison and begin a spree of bank jobs, Bowie finds love with Keechie (Chickamaw's niece) at Chickamaw's brothers place where the gang is hidingout till the heat is off. The gang eventually splits up with the loot and Keechie leaves with Bowie, they get married at a marriage mill and try to lead a normal life but the gang drags him back to pull another job, which goes to shit. Da Silva has a great close up as One-Eyed Chickamaw.
This is sort of a very loose riff on Bonnie & Clyde. 8/10
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IMO, you're all lowballing this movie. I give it a 9.5/10
I've never had use for Granger, but this is an amazing movie (whether because of him or despite him), maybe the fact that he's half a twinkie is alright here because his character is really not a tough guy, but a young and innocent guy. But even Granger haters should love this movie. I loved Cathy O'Donell here. Howard Da Silva, Jay C. Flippen, and all the other supporting cast members are really good.
There will be inevitable comparisons to
Gun Crazy
and
Bonnie & Clyde
(which all came after
They Live by Night
); while in one respect the comparisons are correct, in that this couple is in love but has to be constantly on the run, can't just settle down and enjoy each other; but it's also very different because unlike GC and B&C, this movie is not about a crime spree. This movie is really a love story, about the couple just wanting nothing but to settle down, but the past crime life haunts them. This is really "love on the run," not "love & crime on the run."
I just can't say enough about how much I love O'Donnell here. She is just amazing
WHAT A MOVIE!
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https://trailersfromhell.com/they-live-by-night/
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I recently saw the movie for a second time, and I can not believe my earlier enthusiastic review
(True, I dislike Granger in this movie less than in any of his others, but he's still far from great.) This movie gets no more than a 7.5/10
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This movie played today on TCM Noir Alley.
Eddie Muller's intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30jmD91o77U&feature=youtu.be
Eddie Muller's afterword:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42xaezCnJ4U&feature=youtu.be
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A fantastic movie. I caught this earlier this year on TCM. I liked Granger's performance in Strangers on a Train, so i had to see this movie. Everything was very good. What stood out was the cinematography. This is a movie that showed very well. The plot was pretty good also. Its another film noir that for some reason, is underrated. I;m gonna get the Criterion version of this . I rate this a 7 out of 10...
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Quote from: Moorman on November 18, 2017, 02:16:29 PM
A fantastic movie. I caught this earlier this year on TCM. I liked Granger's performance in Strangers on a Train, so i had to see this movie. Everything was very good. What stood out was the cinematography. This is a movie that showed very well. The plot was pretty good also. Its another film noir that for some reason, is underrated. I;m gonna get the Criterion version of this . I rate this a 7 out of 10...
Check out Granger's
Side Street
also.
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Re: They Live by Night (1948)
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Quote from: cigar joe on November 18, 2017, 05:19:08 PM
Check out Granger's
Side Street
also.
Thanks for that. I went and did a quick review of it over at Rotten Tomatoes. I can tell this is gonna be a good one from their reviews. I'm gonna get this. I like pretty much anything that Granger is in.
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