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« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2014, 12:16:31 PM »

Yes, I think the word fuck wasn't often used in the 70s in US films. Actually I don't remember any film.

I usually watch it in German. Watched the English version for the first time on new year.


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« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2014, 02:49:43 PM »

The right one. Nice vintage soundtrack..

Oh, the other one is terrible. I never realized that, probably never even saw / heard it. Does that wrong soundtrack version have all the cursing?

what do you mean "the right one"? we had big debates over which is the "right one." we have a whole thread about the differences in the soundtrack http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=10181.0

which music is in the final soundtrack? is it one continuous melody, or does it start then stop when Coburn stops kissing the girl and passes her off to the other guy?

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« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2014, 04:14:40 PM »

I wrote 'the other one is just terrible', that's of course the wrong one... The second one in the youtube clip. Just bad. Wrong music, not enough emotion comes through. I mean the sound mix of the 'right' version tells it all, with the shots from the battle fading in and out at the start & end of the flashback.

I wish I had more time, then I'd read the whole soundtrack thread.. Right now I just find the time to write some lines here and there...

I can only say: I watched the Italian BD and the only time I was distracted was during the first killings, slightly out of sync (shots, breaking glass as I recall). Or maybe sloppy dupping back in 1971?
The rest was just fine. Right music, nice foul language... It felt just right, the way I recalled it from the past.
If something with this 1971 soundtrack version is wrong, I better not read that thread here, or next time I see it will bother me Smiley.
Right now I'm happy with that version. (The out of sync isn't that bad really, not for long and one to three two frames only maybe...)
It just feels like the original 1971 version, and that's how I want to see my classics. I don't want stereo soundtrack from the 33rpm records mixed in years later, or new gun shot sounds...

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« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2014, 04:35:27 PM »

well most of that thread is a debate over which version is correct. But the point is that it's not simply a question of correct music, it's deeper than that; the music actually explains the scene - whether the music plays continuously as the girl goes from Sean to Nolan; or whether it stops and then starts again, tells you whether or not there is harmony in this love triangle. If you don't wanna read the whole thread, just read this post http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=10181.msg148207#msg148207

the big question is which version of the music in the final flashback is the correct version that Leone intended. (Was the full final flashback actually shown in any version of the movie in 1971?)

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« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2014, 04:13:59 AM »

Received the disc today!
I'm not overly impressed by both picture and audio quality. There are shots which almost look perfect, but too often there blown out whites and rather strange grain with black dots in darker scenes.
The English soundtrack is awful - to the point where it's sometimes hard to understand what the characters say. Too bad there aren't any English subtitles, otherwise I'd watch the movie in Italian with English subs turned on in order to enjoy the music.

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« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2014, 04:37:50 AM »

Has anybody here seen any of the just-released BRD's for any film other than DYS?

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« Reply #66 on: January 16, 2014, 09:15:05 AM »

I ordered them all and have yet to receive them.

I can't find any info on GBU, which is a bit shocking. Most likely a reissue of the Mondo BD.

FAFDM has been confirmed to be a reissue of the Mondo BD.

OUATITW is the same as the Paramount BD. It might be slightly sharper based on one person's review.

That's all the info I could gather over the last few weeks.

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« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2014, 12:29:58 PM »


OUATITW is the same as the Paramount BD. It might be slightly sharper based on one person's review.



But not the main version, the Paramount version. It is the 2nd version on the Paramount Blu, the restored one with some Scorsese involvement.

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« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2014, 02:14:23 PM »

Thanks for clarifying.

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« Reply #69 on: January 17, 2014, 12:43:57 PM »

http://i39.tinypic.com/23w5ks9.jpg

Watched the movie yesterday and wanted to give you my opinion on the quality and examples that show what I mean.


Often there are blown-out whites (Juan's shirt!), although it doesn't look as drastic on this screencap as it did when I watched it (both on PC and TV). Colours often look to yellowish or washed out, like in this case.
http://i39.tinypic.com/209o70z.jpg

Grain can be overemphasized in dark scenes like this one - although I prefer this too any use of DNR, of course:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2po2vmh.jpg

Detail can be quite good during close ups.
http://i40.tinypic.com/15wgqxw.jpg

Look how strange John's darker side of the face looks... completely grey and harsh contrast.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2uxvc6w.jpg

The flashbacks look totally desaturated (especially the last one), but it's possible that they are supposed to look that way.
http://i44.tinypic.com/x3dfa0.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ntzg9y.jpg

Last but not least, here is a comparison of the Italian and English soundtracks. Music is identical, the quality is not.

Italian:
http://www67.zippyshare.com/v/10309203/file.html

English:
http://www67.zippyshare.com/v/42279215/file.html

http://i43.tinypic.com/2narbbm.jpg




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« Reply #70 on: January 18, 2014, 12:01:50 PM »

Please forgive my ignorance but has DUCK YOU SUCKER / A FISTFUL OF DYNAMITE been released on Blu-ray yet...?

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« Reply #71 on: January 18, 2014, 03:31:01 PM »

Please forgive my ignorance but has DUCK YOU SUCKER / A FISTFUL OF DYNAMITE been released on Blu-ray yet...?

No unfortunately not.  Embarrassed
And don't be fooled by the title of this thread nor by the screencaps and short review in the post above yours...

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« Reply #72 on: January 18, 2014, 05:14:59 PM »

yo depp 91, you gotta resize the images. This page is waaaaaay stretched out

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« Reply #73 on: January 19, 2014, 08:44:37 AM »

yo depp 91, you gotta resize the images. This page is waaaaaay stretched out

You're right, I changed it!

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« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2014, 02:26:40 AM »

Some useful comparison pics and info at caps-a-holic:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?disc1=3713&disc2=3714&hd_multiID=1542#auswahl

 

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