Blu-ray to be released Dec 2013

[drinkanddestroy]

(the other flaw being Leone not being as smart as he thought he was politically speaking)

i.e., not sufficiently Left for our comrade n_l

[noodles_leone]

i.e., not sufficiently Left for our comrade n_l

Haha no he could be very rightwing for that matter, I read and watch everything! I just don't want him to be dumb. The movie isn't dumb but it does clearly punch above Leone's political weight. It thinks it's saying something very deep with Juan's monologue and it's actually pretty basic. So basic and that I'd be surprised if Bakunin had not adressed that question, it's anarchism 101.

[uncknown]

It's really only the opening scene - from the quotation of Marx thru the crash of the coach - that Leone is blatantly poking fun at the leftist directors then working in Italy. They probably deserved to have their pretensions deflated a bit, but Leone didn't handle the matter with much subtlety or wit. I grew up with the American version so much of this subtext was missing until the original version was released.

[cigar joe]

Hey its the first ever depiction of Western trailer trash.

[drinkanddestroy]

It's really only the opening scene - from the quotation of Marx thru the crash of the coach - that Leone is blatantly poking fun at the leftist directors then working in Italy. They probably deserved to have their pretensions deflated a bit, but Leone didn't handle the matter with much subtlety or wit. I grew up with the American version so much of this subtext was missing until the original version was released.

What was missing in the beginning from the American version?

[drinkanddestroy]

Re: politics: Leone can probably best be described as a left-libertarian.

[uncknown]

What was missing in the beginning from the American version?

The quotation by Mao was not included.
Also the rape scene was truncated. Iirc it deleted the part where the women indicates her enjoyment at being ravaged ( and excitement at Juan' s appendage).

[uncknown]

Re: politics: Leone can probably best be described as a left-libertarian.

Leone explicitly or implicitly criticized war, organized religion and capitalism in his Western films.
But, in DYS he seems skeptical of the left /Marxist/ communists , class based  struggle to solve these problems.

" I just want the money".
   - Juan ( Rod Steiger)
😆