50 Years

[Scarabaeus]

I just realized, it will be 50 years since 'Fistful' has been released! Quite a milestone. Are there any celebrations planned?

[titoli]

You're talking about Per un pugno di dollari. Fistful was to be released later.

[dave jenkins]

You're talking about Per un pugno di dollari. Fistful was to be released later.

Now you're talkin'!

[titoli]

Now you're talkin'!

I just wanted to beat you to the draw.

[Scarabaeus]

Yeah, I know, the americans did not get to see it until a few years later. It's still a 1964 movie, no matter what language the title is translated to.

[dave jenkins]

Yeah, I know, the americans did not get to see it until a few years later. It's still a 1964 movie, no matter what language the title is translated to.

You're assuming that Per un pugno di dollari (1964) is the same film as A Fistful of Dollars (1967). Assumptions are not proof.

[titoli]

Yeah, I know, the americans did not get to see it until a few years later. It's still a 1964 movie, no matter what language the title is translated to.

I've tried to warn you.

[noodles_leone]

A single film, several versions. But the real question is: DJ, in your opinion, which version includes a gay subtext?

[Scarabaeus]

Well, there is no Per un pugno di dollari forum here, so communicating in the A Fistful of Dollars forum will have to do.

[dave jenkins]

A single film, several versions. But the real question is: DJ, in your opinion, which version includes a gay subtext?

All Westerns have gay subtexts. The idea of a man using phalluses (bullets) to penetrate the body of another man . . . how could anything be gayer than that?

[dave jenkins]

A single film, several versions.

It's pointless to argue with religious people.

And yet, here I go!

There is, apparently, a film called Fur Eine Handvoll Dollar. Browsing through the SL Encyclopedia today (an amusing pastime I sometimes give myself to), I came across this interesting entry:

The Alphonse Dub of Fur Eine Handvoll Dollar. The second German dubbing of FOD, made for the film's re-release in 1970s using a jokier--but in fact unfunny--translation. (In this version, Eastwood's mule has the name Alphonse). Purists prefer the original German dub, which is the one currently available on German DVDs.

So it appears that this one film (Fur Eine Handvoll Dollar) has at least two versions (a first and second dubbing). This has nothing to do with fact of other Leone films, such as Per un pugno di dollari and A Fistful of Dollars, which may or may not have alternate versions themselves.

[titoli]

All Westerns have gay subtexts. The idea of a man using phalluses (bullets) to penetrate the body of another man . . . how could anything be gayer than that?

Not counting that in this movie the phallus question is clearer than in other movies as it is a fight between two different kinds of cock, where the winner is not who has it bigger but the one who can use it better.

[drinkanddestroy]

On a (somewhat) related note: i just noticed for the first time: in the scene where the Rojos are partying, Ramon says something, TMWNN responds sumthin like, "does she think so?" "or does she agree with that?" point is that Ramon sees TMWNN is interested in Marisol; then (for the only time in the movie), Ramon kisses Marisol, and then you see him give a look back at TMWNN, like, haha , she's mine :D:D ..... I thought that was a funny moment; but maybe that was just Ramon tryin to make his boyfriend jealous. He knew TMWNN was comin to town (he knows all the scraps of information), so he kidnapped Marisol to make TMWNN jealous, spice up the relationship

[dave jenkins]

On a (somewhat) related note: i just noticed for the first time: in the scene where the Rojos are partying, Ramon says something, TMWNN responds sumthin like, "does she think so?" "or does she agree with that?" point is that Ramon sees TMWNN is interested in Marisol; then (for the only time in the movie), Ramon kisses Marisol, and then you see him give a look back at TMWNN, like, haha , she's mine :D:D Ramo..... I thought that was a funny moment; but maybe that was just Ramon tryin to make his boyfriend jealous. He knew TMWNN was comin to town (he knows all the scraps of information), so he kidnapped Marisol to make TMWNN jealous, spice up the relationship

Now you're just being silly.

[drinkanddestroy]

Now you're just being silly.

I'm deadly serious at all times. I don't like comedy