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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2014, 09:17:59 AM »

Hot Fuzz (6/10) was not that funny, but ok to watch. But Scott Pilgrim (9/10) is a real beauty, but is a very different kind of movie than his other 3 films, isn't it? Actually I was totally surprised that it's the same director.

Somehow I haven't watched Shaun of the Dead yet.

Here is how I see Wright's filmography:

SHAUN OF THE DEAD = FOD
Creating a new way of telling a comedy, with its own rules and sense of humor. It's a lot of hit and miss, it's like a sketch for preparing the following movies.

HOT FUZZ = GBU
It's (almost) absolute perfection. It removes the"misses" from Shaun, takes all the "hits" and brings them to their quintessence.

SCOTT PILGRIM = OUATITW
Perfection + ambition. The guy now wants to go further. He adds real meaning in a film so inventively crafted that it is as much about its story as it is about the way it's done. Also, it means risks, so box office bomb.

THE WORLD'S END = DYS
It's amazingly more flawed than the 2 previous films, and the style is kept low-key (by Wright's standards). Also, it feels really different, as they tried very hard to put real emotion in this one. It's less ambitious than Pilgrim, but aims deeper.

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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2014, 09:52:36 AM »

Let's play the Marty game:

1969 : Who's That Knocking at My Door  8/10
1972 : Boxcar Bertha  7
1973 : Mean Streets  9
1974 : Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore  7
1976 : Taxi Driver  9,5
1977 : New York, New York  8
1980 : Raging Bull  10
1983 : The King of Comedy  8,5
1985 : After Hours  7
1986 : The Color of Money  7
1988 : The Last Temptation of Christ  6
1990 : Goodfellas  9
1991 : Cape Fear  6
1993 : The Age of Innocence  9
1995 : Casino  9
1997 : Kundun  6,5
1999 : Bringing Out the Dead  7
2002 : Gangs of New York  6
2004 : The Aviator  7
2006 : The Departed  6
2010 : Shutter Island  4
2010 : A Letter to Elia (co-directed) what's that?
2011 : Hugo  ?
2013 : The Wolf of Wall Street  ?

I skipped the documentary and concert stuff

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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2014, 09:58:16 AM »

A Letter To Elia is part of the documentary stuff: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808245/

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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2014, 10:00:10 AM »

Let's play the Marty game:

I skipped the documentary and concert stuff
Is that playing fair?

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2014, 10:13:52 AM »

Is that playing fair?

My game, my rules

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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2014, 01:19:39 PM »

My game, my rules
Sure, but if all you want to do is play checkers, don't be surprised when the chess crowd doesn't show.

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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2014, 01:46:31 AM »

My game, my rules

The first rule of the Stanton Club is: doing great documentaries means being dead.

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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2014, 02:52:36 AM »

The president of the club does not know if they are great as he hasn't watched most of them. I've seen The Great Waltz once, but I have no clue how to rate it compared to his "real" films. Actually I don't remember anything of it, and did not care for the music back then. Scorsese's Personal Journey was entertaining stuff, though.

All in all I'm not very interested in the aesthetics of documentary films. I normally don't watch now any as I have so much other films to watch. Most of them are message films anyway, and I don't like message films. I generally don't care for a film's message, only how the film turns a content into a narrative structure. I'm more interested in storytelling than in the story itself.

About the dead thing, at least he made a film about a dead combo (aka the Stones). Of course one can make alive films about totally dead things, but the clips I saw looked too smooth.

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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2014, 02:57:10 AM »

Sure, but if all you want to do is play checkers, don't be surprised when the chess crowd doesn't show.

Yes, that's why I play Go (a game for warriors) instead of chess (a game for salesman) and live satisfied with the fact that the checkers guys have no clue what I'm doing.

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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2014, 04:04:22 AM »

I'll play  Wink

1969 : Who's That Knocking at My Door  don't remember it
1972 : Boxcar Bertha  5
1973 : Mean Streets  6
1974 : Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore  5
1976 : Taxi Driver  8.5
1977 : New York, New York   don't remember it
1980 : Raging Bull  8.5
1983 : The King of Comedy  6
1985 : After Hours  9
1986 : The Color of Money  6
1988 : The Last Temptation of Christ  6
1990 : Goodfellas  10
1991 : Cape Fear  6
1993 : The Age of Innocence  7
1995 : Casino  10
1997 : Kundun  not seen
1999 : Bringing Out the Dead  6
2002 : Gangs of New York  7
2004 : The Aviator  8
2006 : The Departed  6
2010 : Shutter Island  4
2010 : A Letter to Elia not seen
2011 : Hugo  not seen
2013 : The Wolf of Wall Street  not seen

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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2014, 06:44:56 AM »

Based on how I feel about them right now. I added some titles.

1963 : What's a Nice Girl Like You Doing in a Place Like This? (can't remember but IMDb says I gave it 7)
1964 : It's Not Just You, Murray! 8
1968 : The Big Shave 4
1973 : Mean Streets 8.5
1974 : Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore 8
1976 : Taxi Driver 9
1980 : Raging Bull 10
1986 : The Color of Money 7
1988 : The Last Temptation of Christ 7
1989 : New York stories (segment "Life Lessons") 9
1990 : Goodfellas 10
1991 : Cape Fear 6
1995 : A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese through American Movies (I've only seen some clips on YouTube; seems like one of his best)
1995 : Casino 8.5
1997 : Kundun 7.5
2002 : Gangs of New York 6
2004 : The Aviator 6.5
2005 : No Direction Home : Bob Dylan (can't really remember but I recall rather liking it)
2006 : The Departed 9
2010 : Shutter Island 7
2010 : A Letter to Elia 7
2011 : Boardwalk Empire - S1, E1 8 (don't remember specifics)

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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2014, 08:30:51 AM »

The King of Comedy Blu-ray now set for 25 March: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/329556-tcfhe-press-release-the-king-of-comedy-blu-ray/

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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2014, 03:39:41 AM »

I just read CONVERSATIONS WITH SCORSESE, by Richard Schickel.
Schickel's book-length interview with Scorsese is great, great stuff.. This is not a collection of stuff Schickels has done on the past with Scorsese; this is a whole series of interviews he did specifically for this book. It's broken down into various chapters; there's a chapter for each movie, and also a chapter for various subjects like Little Italy, Music, Camera Movement, Editing, etc.

If you're a Marty fan, read this book.

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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2014, 03:17:26 AM »

I just saw Scorsese's documentary A Letter to Elia (I rented it from iTunes). I am making this post in the Scorsese thread rather than the Kazan thread, cuz this documentary tells you more about Scorsese than it does about Kazan! And I don't mean that it a negative way at all: Movies like all other art are intensely personal, subject to all of a person's subconscious feelings, background, life experiences, and emotions.
And btw, that's one of the reasons why rating movies isn't my favorite thing, cuz it's not about trying to judge an art objectively; it's about what it means to you. And that's one of the reasons I argue that a movie is about entertainment more than art: the entertainment value, i.e. how much I enjoy it and what it means to me, is more important than trying to analyze it in some sort of analytical objective sense. Just one example out of a million: There is an Edward Hopper painting that reminds me of a Leone movie; this painting means more to me than many paintings that are often rightfully called masterpieces. If I wasn't a Leone fan, would I enjoy that paintings as much as I do? No. But I am a Leone fan. And that paintings therefore mean so much to me and make me smile more than many others.
So, certain movies mean a lot to Scorsese cuz he saw in them elements of his own life or upbringing; they "spoke to him" (BTW, having just read Schickel's Scorsese book which I mentioned in the previous post, I enjoyed this documentary even more, cuz Scorsese speaks more extensively on many of the themes he discusses in this documentary), and of course those same movies may not speak to me - I am a different person, upbringing, family, etc. than Marty is. But hearing Marty express his feelings about what the movies meant to him reminds me of what movies - maybe not the same ones - have meant to me.

I certainly believe that there are external or tangible or perhaps objective artistic values to an artwork that can be discussed and appreciated, I am absolutely not discounting that. But there is always a portion of an artwork that will or will not resonate with you for a reason you can't (and perhaps don't want to) explain. It's just how you feel. Which, at the end of the day, is the most important thing to each person about any particular movie: simply, how did it make me feel, did I enjoy it?

so, even if I don't have the same emotion as Scorsese did when watching a particular movie - maybe he liked one that i don't or vice versa - I can relate to his emotion of what a movie can mean to someone. His documentary reminded me of what is so great about movies. And it's not just true about emotional/psychological movies. Even movies with no emotional/psychological depth can "speak to you" in a million different ways.

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« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2015, 01:16:59 PM »

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Joe Pesci has come out from under his rock to team up with the equally iconic twosome that is Robert De Niro and Al Pacino, for a new film directed by none other than the man Martin Scorsese.
http://www.unilad.co.uk/articles/robert-de-niro-joe-pesci-and-al-pacino-will-star-in-new-film/

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