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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2014, 01:52:14 PM »

Heaven's Gate is an uneven film with some magnificent flaws.

La Regle du jeu is meanwhile, after 4 viewings, close to the great film many want to see in it. Initially I did not understand it (not the story or the content, but the film)


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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2014, 11:09:45 PM »

Funny how in French it's "The Rule...", but in English it's "The Rules..." in the plural

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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2014, 11:30:53 AM »

I view the western genre in this way:

the beginnings  - 190?-1938

The Classic AW - 1939 -1965/6

The Spaghetti Western + New Age American Western - 1965/6-1976

Modern Westerns/Post Western/Neo Western/Etc - 1977-

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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2017, 06:26:43 AM »

I view the western genre in this way:

the beginnings  - 190?-1938

The Classic AW - 1939 -1965/6

The Spaghetti Western + New Age American Western - 1965/6-1976

Modern Westerns/Post Western/Neo Western/Etc - 1977-

Reviving/adding this debate, (as a result of watching a few recent post 2010Westerns)

Yea this breakdown above by T.H. is pretty close, I would just push the "Modern Westerns/Post Western/Neo Western/Etc - 1977-category" to 1982 to include The Long Riders, Tom Horn, and The Grey Fox, I also believe we can split next category beyond into a further split into one that is reflecting the rise of the PC Western that's sort of coupled with the Woman centric Westerns.


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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2017, 06:39:33 AM »



The Early Years  : 1901-1938

The Classic Westerns : 1939 -1960

The Twilight/Revisionist Westerns : 1961 - 1976 or 1980

The Spaghetti Western : 1964-1976

New Westerns after old models : 1977 or 1981 - the present

Logically the Spags should have been made after the twilight cycle of westerns had been finished. At least they started after the first twilight westerns were made, but reached their peak before the twilight themes became massively popular in the early 70s after The Wild Bunch.

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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2017, 07:54:31 PM »

Notwithstanding my earlier comment (saying the classic era ends with  the death of John Wayne in THE SHOOTIST), I think now Iíll define classic era of the American Western as 1939-1962 (STAGECOACH to THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE).

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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2017, 08:11:37 AM »

There's no set cut-off point.  I'd suggest 1966 to include Nevada Smith, 1966 Stagecoach, Sons of Katie Elder....

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