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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2015, 03:23:14 AM »

Here's a link to the original French opening credits:

http://www.wat.tv/video/generique-film-bon-brute-truand-42dzz_3qecf_.html


The credits are those from the international version.

Widescreen versions of 2,35:1 films were the rule on German TV, only not in 2,35:1 but in 1,85:1. A good compromise then.

The VHS versions of the Hollywod studios were in the 80s mostly in ugly  pan&scan fullscreen, but surprisingly in the 90s they started releasing them often in the correct aspect ratio.

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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2015, 03:39:52 AM »

Yes I think we had it in 1,85:1 too.

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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2015, 05:50:41 AM »

Here's a link to the original French opening credits:

http://www.wat.tv/video/generique-film-bon-brute-truand-42dzz_3qecf_.html

Apparently this aired in June 1994 on France 3.

A mid-90s TV presentation in widescreen?? Noodles, is your TV recording in widescreen as well?

Cool to see this, nice find Brutto! Weird how the title isn't shot on in pieces like the other versions...

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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2015, 01:10:15 PM »

Yes my recording was in widescreen too. We've had widescreen tv presentations for a long time here. It was rare but it happened, especially for western movies.
I recorded the film after 1994. The Leone films are on traditional tv channels n France almost every year in August (either tf1, France 3 or m6) so they're easy to catch.

Is the original version (i.e. International Cut) still shown or is it the Extended Cut?

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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2015, 02:11:06 PM »

I rarely check it out but I've caught the extended cut on TV a couple times.

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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2015, 09:35:51 AM »

Cool to see this, nice find Brutto! Weird how the title isn't shot on in pieces like the other versions...

I knew you'd appreciate it.  Wink

We need to find a TV capture of this.

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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2015, 06:35:49 PM »

Noodles, would you mind translating this? This is the original question the interviewer asked Leone:

Pourquoi les versions sont-elles différentes selon les pays?

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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2015, 06:37:32 PM »

I knew you'd appreciate it.  Wink

We need to find a TV capture of this.


Agreed...Noodles I don't suppose you would mind looking to see if you still have your vhs copy? If you do, I'll pay for shipping it to Canada?

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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2015, 12:47:10 PM »

And still, I don't think that the French version was longer. One can check the DVDs for the voices in the French version. If all the of the usual new scenes have the newly dubbed voices you can be sure that it was the same version as everywhere.

Thanks to your suggestion I decided to check my BD with the French DTS 5.1 track selected. In all deleted scenes it's unmistakable that these scenes were newly dubbed.  The new voice actors sound VERY different and their voices are much more prominent in the audio track.

I also don't think the French version was longer. It would be great if we could obtain a copy of the IC to verify this once and for all.

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« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2015, 11:31:30 PM »

Noodles, would you mind translating this? This is the original question the interviewer asked Leone:

Pourquoi les versions sont-elles différentes selon les pays?

Why versions differ depending on the country?

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« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2015, 07:21:15 AM »

Why versions differ depending on the country?

Thanks!

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« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2015, 12:19:29 PM »


Agreed...Noodles I don't suppose you would mind looking to see if you still have your vhs copy? If you do, I'll pay for shipping it to Canada?

It's at my parents' place. I'll look for it the next time I'll go there.

Why versions differ depending on the country?

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the very first time Titoli and I agree on something.

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« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2015, 12:09:20 PM »

It's at my parents' place. I'll look for it the next time I'll go there.

Did you find it?

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« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2015, 04:23:00 AM »

Thanks for the reminder, I had completely forgotten. I'm at my parent's place today and I just checked. THey have thrown all the VHS to the garbage years ago. Nothing is left...

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« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2015, 08:54:42 AM »

Thanks for checking.

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