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« #45 : December 06, 2015, 05:12:07 PM »

Really? 

It is probably the first apart from the Eastwood films which I would suspect to have a SW influence, but actually I can't remember anything in it which is specifically SW style. .
it has a ton of Leone-esque CUs of leering bad guys.



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« #46 : December 06, 2015, 05:57:45 PM »

Other obvious ones:

El Condor
Monte Walsh
The Magnificent Seven Ride



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« #47 : December 07, 2015, 02:10:12 AM »

Other obvious ones:

El Condor
Monte Walsh
The Magnificent Seven Ride

Monte Walsh surely not, the other 2 are also westerns with van Cleef, and there is a bit more SW influence visible, but I think it is even in El condor less visible than in Eastwood's films. Actually these are 2 mediocre films, and I don't remember much from them, El condor being shot in Spain is maybe a border case for being a vehicle for its star, who made his career only with Spagies.


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« #48 : December 07, 2015, 06:33:16 AM »

I really meant "obvious". Because, really, if you deny the huge SW influence in these 3 movies, I see why you don't see it in TWB either.

About Monte Walsh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUjCz0x2gTY check out the 2 hours 26 minutes mark, for example.

We could go on, it's easy, Wikipedia features a list of western films by year. And I haven't even started about TV series: even the most american show ever, little house in the prairies, had its share of SW episodes!

I'm gonna say it a last time: I see your point about AW evolving by themselves anyway, you're not wrong at all, but denying the big SW influence on american westerns of the 60's/70's makes no sense. You may have a very limited vision of what SW are. For the record, I don't even like most SW.

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« #49 : December 07, 2015, 12:15:00 PM »

I really meant "obvious". Because, really, if you deny the huge SW influence in these 3 movies, I see why you don't see it in TWB either.

About Monte Walsh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUjCz0x2gTY check out the 2 hours 26 minutes mark, for example.

I see nothing dispositive there. Who invented the Calculus, Leibniz or Newton?



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« #50 : December 08, 2015, 02:14:26 AM »

I see nothing dispositive there. Who invented the Calculus, Leibniz or Newton?

Leone.

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« #51 : December 22, 2015, 04:32:29 PM »

'Good' because he was the 'guardian angel' to tuco, gave the drink to the dying captain and shared a smoke with the dying soldier



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« #52 : December 23, 2015, 07:32:22 AM »

'Good' because he was the 'guardian angel' to tuco, gave the drink to the dying captain and shared a smoke with the dying soldier


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« #53 : January 07, 2016, 09:31:03 AM »

Like Frayling quoted someone: In the American Western, the hero has the fastest gun; in the Leone Western, the one with the fastest gun is the hero  ;)

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It used to be that the man who stood for high principles was the man who was also the best shot. Now we no longer believe that in order to be a great shot you need principles at all. And Clint Eastwood is a totally unprincipled killer.

From the 24:13 mark here:

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« #54 : January 07, 2016, 11:54:48 PM »

Pauline Kael:

From the 24:13 mark here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAhX6esloTs

Great stuff - I am delighted to find a new documentary on Leone that I have never seen before. Thanks for sharing  O0


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