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« on: December 16, 2015, 10:21:43 PM »

From the Stanley Kauffmann's review: "Like Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo can be compared with a good western. (There is a rumor that Hollywood is to remake it as such.)" (September 17, 1962)

 

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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2015, 03:10:06 AM »

After the success of Mag 7 not a keen idea.

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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2015, 08:11:17 AM »

From the Stanley Kauffmann's review: "Like Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo can be compared with a good western. (There is a rumor that Hollywood is to remake it as such.)" (September 17, 1962)

So how did Cinecittą get there first?

I wonder if Kurosawa was aware of these rumors and perhaps half-expecting something like A Fistful of Dollars to appear?

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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2015, 10:41:27 AM »

So how did Cinecittą get there first?

Cinecittą didn't get there first: the producers never thought about buying rights before the lawsuit. The real question  is in the title of the topic.

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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2015, 11:03:33 AM »

Well technically Cinecittą did get there first just via Leone  - i.e. before anyone in Hollywood made anything.

The question then remains why nothing happened in Hollywood legitimately or, to take a leaf from Leone, somewhat illegitimately.

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2015, 12:14:29 PM »

Hollywood was busy with remaking Rashomon at that time, which I assume was a flop and a failure then.

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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2015, 03:04:40 PM »

So you've discovered that it was Ronald Lubin who wanted to buy the rights to Yojimbo?

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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2015, 05:57:22 PM »

So you've discovered that it was Ronald Lubin who wanted to buy the rights to Yojimbo?

Sounds like you just did  Grin

This guy:
http://variety.com/2004/scene/people-news/a-ronald-lubin-1117906497/

What's your source? Did you find it out in the Kauffmann book?

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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2015, 02:44:14 AM »

Sounds like you just did  Grin

This guy:
http://variety.com/2004/scene/people-news/a-ronald-lubin-1117906497/

What's your source? Did you find it out in the Kauffmann book?

No, it's only that our german friend identified Hollywood with Lubin. So it's him who must reveal his source.

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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2015, 06:06:15 AM »

I did not discover anything. Only said that Hollywood was busy with the Outrage in 1964.

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2015, 09:33:49 AM »

I've also seen differing accounts regarding whether it was Ritt or Lubin who first came up with the idea to remake Rashomon.

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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2015, 06:42:12 AM »

From the Stanley Kauffmann's review: "Like Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo can be compared with a good western. (There is a rumor that Hollywood is to remake it as such.)" (September 17, 1962)

Walter Hill did make "Last Man Standing" but that was over 30 years later.

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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2015, 10:24:54 AM »

Walter Hill did make "Last Man Standing" but that was over 30 years later.

And it wasn't a western. And it was based on Red Harvest. Like Yojimbo. And I have reviewed it here.

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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2015, 03:54:19 PM »

If you have Galbraith's book on Kurosawa and Mifune, you can take a look at a short mention there about New Line purchasing the rights to Yojimbo legitimately which ultimately culminated in Last Man Standing.

Good point about it not being a Western though - haven't seen it myself, but have just seen it mentioned as a remake. Regardless, even if it were a Western it would still be unrelated to whatever Kauffmann is referencing due to it being so much later.

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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2015, 04:00:55 PM »

LAST MAN STANDING can be considered a modern-day Western or something. Takes place in a dusty Texas town during Prohibition, as I recall; with a main street that looks like it could be a Western set.

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