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« #15 : September 12, 2004, 09:10:04 AM »

 8) hola Belkin. apologies for the delayed response but to answer your question - No, we probably wouldn't.

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« #16 : September 12, 2004, 11:31:08 AM »

I always thought the flashbacks in fafdm were badly done... for leone anyway, we all know how amazing his flashbacks can be, maybe i'm spoiled by his later flashback sequences but these were just horrid.


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« #17 : September 13, 2004, 08:29:52 AM »

say what you want about the america rape scene but I love it being in the movie simply because it sets up and makes possible one of the most beautiful shots in all of leones movies... that walking away shot directly following the chauffeur driving off... without the rape scene that shot would be nothing, and so would the whole exchange between the driver and noodles... two shots i would not want the movie to be without

« : September 13, 2004, 08:31:05 AM grandpa_chum »

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« #18 : September 20, 2004, 04:21:00 AM »

I always disliked the scene in DYS where on top of Juan's head suddendly a banner appears with "Bank of Mesa Verde" written on it: too much like a comic book.
The movie at that point loses credibility and every time I watch it, it always takes me some time in the movie to get over it...

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« #19 : September 20, 2004, 10:48:09 AM »

Leonardo - I actually liked that Bank of Mesa Verde shot.

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« #20 : September 20, 2004, 11:48:42 AM »

Cusser, that's OK, but I still think this banner stuff would fit better into a movie like "My name is nobody" or any Terence Hill/Bud Spencer movie.
The comic book effect is followed later in the movie by mass executions, discussions by Juan & John about Bakunin and revolution, Villega's suicide etc. so somehow the banner doesn't fit. But that's just my humble opinion, Cusser and by the way, I really had to think hard about a Leone scene I dislike...! ;)

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« #21 : September 21, 2004, 09:31:26 AM »

I think the banner shot is excellent. It showed Juan's thought process better than any dialogue could. It kind of summed up his side of the "In it for the money vs In it for the cause" theme which is so important in this film. And it looks cool too, a bit like the cover of an adventure novel or something.


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« #22 : September 21, 2004, 09:37:33 AM »

thats a point, didnt Leone direct a couple of scenes in My Name Is Nobody? And seeing as that was all a pile of shit (with possibly the exception of the shootout of the wild bunch which was so implausible it was laughable) then there must be a leone scene i dislike, lol.  ;D


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« #23 : October 25, 2004, 07:56:00 PM »

I never liked the Manco/Mortimer hat shooting scene in FAFDM - the movie crossed the line into typical spaghetti ridiculousness at that point, and I think it detracted from the rest of the film.  Might as well bring in the machine gun coffins.  Up till then it was a nice, taught fairly believable story line.
I'm sorry, but I must demote you, General.  That's one of the coolest scenes in movie history and it was the only way Leone could pay off all the cool stuff that we'd seen Mortimer and Manco do separately up to that point.   They couldn't talk it out and they couldn't kill each other - this was the perfect way for them to work it out.

On topic, there aren't really any scenes in the Leone Westerns that bother me.   He didn't make enough of them to get trite or annoying anywher, though all the revolution stuff in Duck, You Sucker kind of bugs at times.


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« #24 : October 26, 2004, 07:00:32 AM »

Don't like the love scene from Once Upon A Time in the West between Frank and Jill.
It should be Danny and Jill  ;D


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« #25 : November 10, 2004, 10:19:12 AM »

I'll tell you fellas what I dislike. I strongly dislike this topic. I think it dishonors our favorite directors. Shame on all of you for posting in this topic.


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« #26 : November 12, 2004, 12:25:43 PM »

  The end of OUATIA, with Old Noodles and Old Max.  Too drawn out, long, and boringly-written.  The last half hour or so of DYS didn't exactly grip me either.

  I agree with whoever it was that said that the bits with the hotel manager's wife in FAFDM could've been cut out.  



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« #27 : November 12, 2004, 12:55:15 PM »

I'll tell you fellas what I dislike. I strongly dislike this topic. I think it dishonors our favorite directors. Shame on all of you for posting in this topic.
Are you suggesting we should only discuss MR. LEONE in flawless terms? If you are, you are doing him a great disservice. He was an artist and understood all that being an artist involves and that means taking the good with the bad regarding criticism. The only dishonor to the great man would be for somebody, like yourself, to suggest that there should be no criticism of his body of work! That indeed would be ugly! Shame on you!

« : November 12, 2004, 01:15:57 PM Belkin »

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« #28 : November 12, 2004, 02:42:23 PM »

Oh So, If Sergio Leone directs a really lame scene I dislike, It's okay to say It's Terrible?

Well, I Like Every scene of every film he has ever directed.

I didn't Suggested No Criticism. I think it's a bad idea to express that Leone has directed a bad scene.


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« #29 : November 13, 2004, 03:41:21 AM »

Oh So, If Sergio Leone directs a really lame scene I dislike, It's okay to say It's Terrible?

Well, I Like Every scene of every film he has ever directed.

I didn't Suggested No Criticism. I think it's a bad idea to express that Leone has directed a bad scene.
If you think it is....."a bad idea to express that Leone has directed a bad scene", then you are indeed suggesting that there should be no criticism!

« : November 13, 2004, 03:46:01 AM Belkin »

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