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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2016, 02:29:20 AM »

The Mag 7 remake (might be better called the 4th sequel) is as uncharismatic as are its characters as are their actors. Even the Denzel remains pale (well, comparatively). Action scenes are not bad, but lack a reasonable structure, and are going on of course much too long. A generous 5/10, which makes it probably the best sequel of the not-that-great-either original.

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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2016, 03:42:56 AM »

I don't think I'll be bothering with this in the near future.

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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2016, 06:54:15 AM »

Some guy told me they should have switched the genre once again, which isn't stupid. If they want to remake it, why stick with western? They should do a Vietnam war version or something. That would feel "fresh" again.

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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2016, 10:45:24 AM »

Some guy told me they should have switched the genre once again, which isn't stupid. If they want to remake it, why stick with western? They should do a Vietnam war version or something. That would feel "fresh" again.
Do you really think Battle Beyond the Stars was a success? Well, to each his own.

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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2016, 12:19:29 PM »

They only need a director with ideas, one with a vision. Not one with a slide rule.

Mag 7 anno 16 is too generic to be anything special. At least I couldn't tell who of the 7 survives and who not (apart from the comparatively pale Denzel of course). That Denzel guy, he's such a great actor, but did he ever made one real worthy film?

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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2016, 04:15:54 PM »

That Denzel guy, he's such a great actor, but did he ever made one real worthy film?
That's easy: No. Got any tough questions?

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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2016, 04:38:51 PM »

Do you really think Battle Beyond the Stars was a success? Well, to each his own.

I don't even think the original Magnificent 7 was any good.

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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2016, 02:35:59 AM »

That's easy: No. Got any tough questions?

It was a rhetorical question, so I wasn't asking for a real answer, but actually there is one: Inside Man is really good (despite the puzzling fact that Drink also likes it), I'll give it a 9, but otherwise I think he did not made a film better than 7. Before you all will tell me now that Inside Man is shit, I might add that with or without only one goodie it is kinda disappointing for such a talented actor. Too much los bros Scott stuff indicates that he has a choose-the-right-director problem.

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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2016, 06:40:36 AM »

Training Day was a very good movie.

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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2016, 06:53:28 AM »

Training Day was a very good movie.

Nope, disappointing compared to its possibilities. Maybe 6/10, maybe beneath.

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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2016, 07:18:06 AM »

I don't even think the original Magnificent 7 was any good.

Certainly a very far cry from Seven Samurai.

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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2016, 12:54:35 AM »

So I stand alone on thinking that the original Mag 7 is better than Seven Samurai? Samurai is overlong and more academic than enjoyable. The Mag 7 is brilliantly directed, has a fantastic score and is one of the more fun movies of the classic Hollywood era. It also feels more modern than most movies of its time.

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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2016, 03:05:33 AM »

The Mag 7 is brilliantly directed, has a fantastic score and is one of the more fun movies of the classic Hollywood era. It also feels more modern than most movies of its time.

In parts, yes, but for me every western of Sturges from the 50s is better.

But 7 Samurai is also not without faults.

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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2016, 04:08:53 AM »

IMO Mag 7 is a good movie and 7 Samuarai is excruciating. Three hours of Japanese men crying.

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