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« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2004, 04:47:36 PM »

Well, you got me there I haven't seen Companeros yet.

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« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2004, 05:33:23 AM »

I had known the Big Gundown soundtrack way before seeing the movie. There are copies of the UA Records LP everywhere in secondhand record shops in the UK.
But when you see and hear the chrissi sung morricone open title with the technoscope visuals, it makes the hairs stand on end, work of art.
It rivals the dollars movies intros.

Franco's Big Gundown is proberly best things ive seen on DVD this year. Beats alot of official releases to top 5. I thought bootlegs like this were just pipedreams. its suspended disbelief still after 5 months.  

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« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2004, 11:44:06 PM »

My favorite sw score !! And a top notch movie.

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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2004, 05:00:19 AM »

Its a shame it has no official release.

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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2004, 10:06:10 AM »

Got it from Franco today...I'll get back to you once I've seen it. Nice artwork.

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« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2004, 12:38:49 PM »

I've seen it now. Finally. It was terrific. In the end you got not one, but two showdowns, both up there among the best ever put on film. The final gunbattle theme is actually a reworking of a piece called Für Elise. I played it when I took piano lessons as a kid.

One thing I'm wondering about though: Twenty minutes into the film, Van Cleef is with a blond prostitute, and it sounds like she was dubbed by the same woman who dubbed Claudia Cardinale in Once Upon a Time In The West. I've forgotten her name now, but can anyone tell me if this is correct, or is my mind playing tricks with me again?

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« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2004, 04:32:25 PM »

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One thing I'm wondering about though: Twenty minutes into the film, Van Cleef is with a blond prostitute, and it sounds like she was dubbed by the same woman who dubbed Claudia Cardinale in Once Upon a Time In The West. I've forgotten her name now, but can anyone tell me if this is correct, or is my mind playing tricks with me again?


You may be right, don't know her name though.

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« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2004, 04:01:47 AM »



You may be right, don't know her name though.

Her name is Joyce Gordon. I found the old thread were we discussed this: http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=960

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« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2004, 01:29:45 AM »

Given the amount of adulation Gundown has been receiving on this thread, I was more than a little interested when I saw that there was a new Japanese Lee Van Cleef boxed set that included it (the other 2 titles in the box are Death Rides a Horse and The Grand Duel (Gundown and DRAH are in English with J subtitles, TGD is in Italian with J-subtitles (all three are widescreen 16x9))).

The set was about $100, but I decided to take the plunge(I live in Japan and bought it locally). Gundown is only the 90 minute version and it does look very good. I must say that I was disappointed with the film (maybe that extra quarter of an hour really makes a difference). I grant that it has a good score and that some of the location photography is impressive, but Tomas Milian really annoys me, and I think the plot is weak. It is better than a lot of other non-Leone SWs, though.

After Gundown, I watched DRAH, also for the first time, and, oddly, enjoyed it more. The revenge plot works really well, and I enjoyed the relationship between the young avenger and the Lee Van Cleef character. The ending is also quite strong. For my money, it is superior to Gundown.

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« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2004, 05:25:32 AM »

The cut version removes a lot of Lee Van Cleef and Walter Barnes at the wedding and also the three bullets gunfight at the very beginning and the next whole sherrif's office sequence, It also trims bits and pieces of scenes. Especially after the part where Cuchillo steals VC's horse after the barber sequence, LVC rides into town with what looks like Cuchillo over a saddle when he finds out its not him a section at the end of his conversation with the sheriff is cut, its probably LVC's most regret-filled and human line as he whistfully stares into the screen.

I too when I first saw this 30 years ago did not like the fact that Cuchillo could put things over on <a href="van%20cleef" onmouseover="window.status='Van Cleef'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Van Cleef</a>, but after all the crap that has been made since I really am enjoying these other Euro westerns.

DRAH suffers from a lousy transfer on the US DVD, if its as good as you say it would be nice to see that Japanese DVD.

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« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2004, 09:13:53 AM »

yeah, ive ordered big gundown too from Franco, its a 107-min version so should be pretty complete

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« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2004, 06:34:46 PM »


DRAH suffers from a lousy transfer on the US DVD, if its as good as you say it would be nice to see that Japanese DVD.

I thought the transfer was quite good. It isn't up to the quality of Gundown, though.

BTW, DRAH carries an MGM logo at the beginning, and Gundown wears Columbia's brand. Is it perhaps conceivable that we'll someday get standard US studio releases of these films on DVD?

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« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2004, 09:48:59 PM »

The Japanese transfer is supposed to be better than the crappy current US R1 DVD that looks like it went straight from video to DVD.

The made in Canada DVD of DRAH is 112 minutes can you tell us the running time of the Japanese DVD Dave?

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« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2004, 11:55:09 PM »


The made in Canada DVD of DRAH is 112 minutes can you tell us the running time of the Japanese DVD Dave?

The box says 115.

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« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2004, 05:23:03 AM »

So its either got three more minutes or the transfer runs slower.

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