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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2016, 10:22:30 PM »
so if I understand correctly, you're saying that your IB tech print, though it has lots of dirt and damage, would have the correct colors as Leone wanted them, assuming you were projecting it with the proper bulb etc.?
That's my understanding, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered going down to LA last summer to view Tarantino's IB Tech print.

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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2016, 10:37:30 PM »
The fact that the overall image is very similar to Tarantino's IB tech print DJ and I saw screened last year I'd say it gives us a pretty solid idea of the "look" SL was going for.
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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2016, 02:03:05 AM »
Do you know about whether your bulb/projection process is the correct one, which would display real accurate colors?


If yes: I'd appreciate if you can post a little more film from your print to your blog.

Seems to me that the image/colors is very brown/dark. Again, not sure if that is the color or the dirt.
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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #63 on: June 15, 2016, 03:15:26 AM »
If this helps, I still swear that one original review back in 1967 did mention the "golden mediterranean light", look of the film in a painterly way. Not piss yellow, but "golden". I was living in New York City at the time and the reviews I read usually came from these sources, i.e., The Daily News, The New York Times, The Long Island Star, Time, Newsweek, Life, Look, The New Yorker and occasionally The Film Society Review. It had to be from one of these print sources.
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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #64 on: June 15, 2016, 03:49:46 AM »
Do you know about whether your bulb/projection process is the correct one, which would display real accurate colors?


If yes: I'd appreciate if you can post a little more film from your print to your blog.

Seems to me that the image/colors is very brown/dark. Again, not sure if that is the color or the dirt.

Please don't judge the color of the print based on those clips, as I said on the blog, they are really only an approximation, I wanted to get the clips posted so I took some shortcuts. Plus they have been compressed twice (once to knock them down from 4K, and then again when Vimeo adds it's own compression) which adds some contrast etc. I will post more accurate comparisons soon.

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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2016, 07:03:14 PM »


The perfect version that I would release, of course. Italian version minus 2 scenes (Eastwood and LvC in their night camp, Wallach asking for the way to the monastery) and with the shorter torture Scene and (why not?) with that short scene at the end with Eastwood mounting his horse. And of course without the cave scene.

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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #66 on: June 22, 2016, 01:59:31 AM »
and the shorter US desert crossing scene!!!
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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #67 on: August 15, 2016, 06:21:32 PM »
For those that want to see a colour comparison between the scan of our U.S. 1967 prints vs the mgm 4k, here are a few images. Please note that a print from the 60's is going to have more contrast, more grain and less detail overall since it's like a photocopy of a photocopy, for the mgm 4k they went back to the negative. Contrast range and detail are going to be superior no matter what when you scan from the negative. In my opinion though, our 35mm scan wins in the color department:

http://imgur.com/a/uiBBI

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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #68 on: August 15, 2016, 07:35:16 PM »
For those that want to see a colour comparison between the scan of our U.S. 1967 prints vs the mgm 4k, here are a few images. Please note that a print from the 60's is going to have more contrast, more grain and less detail overall since it's like a photocopy of a photocopy, for the mgm 4k they went back to the negative. Contrast range and detail are going to be superior no matter what when you scan from the negative. In my opinion though, our 35mm scan wins in the color department:

http://imgur.com/a/uiBBI
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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #69 on: August 16, 2016, 11:43:35 AM »
Thanks!

Have you guys tried to get in touch with Giancarlo Santi? It would be very interesting to hear his opinion.

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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2016, 10:35:05 AM »
That's actually a good idea. It didn't occur to us. The problem is...how??
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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2016, 01:19:06 PM »
That's actually a good idea. It didn't occur to us. The problem is...how??

Maybe Peter Hanley could help.

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Re: UNSEEN FOOTAGE from a rare and mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM print
« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2016, 12:02:03 PM »
With relatively famous people the easiest way is through their talent agency - places like CAA and the like usually have a list of who they represent. However, Santi probably doesn't have that representation. Paradoxically that will make it harder to reach him initially but easier to reach him once you've located him. I think the best bet would be the usual chain of contacting someone who just might have an idea who will then put you in touch with someone else...