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« on: June 01, 2016, 06:01:46 PM »

2016 is turning out to be a pretty impressive year for GBU fans!  

First, we had the highly anticipated release of Dr. Hanley's mind-blowing book, a labor of love that took decades to become a reality.

Today, the first of several snippets of previously unseen footage from an enigmatic Italian dye-transfer print that has never been documented before!

Check it out here:

http://theeditroomfloor.blogspot.ca/2016/06/unseen-footage-from-good-bad-and-ugly.html


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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2016, 06:27:47 PM »

Holy Leone!  Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro

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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2016, 07:08:15 PM »

cool  Afro Afro Afro Afro

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2016, 05:52:14 AM »

Holy crap, and still no copy found of the real Holy Grail of the true GBUistic, the so called Stanton cut, aka as the most reasonable one. What's wrong with this world?

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2016, 07:06:08 AM »

Great to see some news on this work.  Afro Afro

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2016, 10:17:47 AM »

I'm looking forward to the follow-up on this:

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In 2014, MGM released on home video a 4K restoration, sourced from the original camera negative, of the most complete version (to date) of The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly. This cut combines almost all known elements from both versions (the international cut has unique footage not found in the Italian releases).

However, despite the overall quality of the release, there was controversy amongst fans of the film over the greenish/yellow toned colour correction the Italian restoration team chose to apply.

 Since L'Immagine Retrovatta / Cineteca di Bologna went back to the camera negative, they were forced to "re-time/re-colour" the entire film, supposedly using a vintage print as reference. Two years later, having personally seen scans of 5 different vintage 1966/1967 prints from Italy/Canada/U.S.A/ and Germany, I can say without a doubt they went too far with the yellow/green tone and it does not reflect the original colour correction of the film as released in 1966/1967.

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2016, 04:21:08 PM »

RE: This paragraph:


"In 2014, MGM released on home video a 4K restoration, sourced from the original camera negative, of the most complete version (to date) of The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly. This cut combines almost all known elements from both versions (the international cut has unique footage not found in the Italian releases)."


Is there any footage on this 2014 release that was not on the Special Edition DVD or the previous BRD released by MGM?

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2016, 05:38:32 PM »

Great post - thanks for sharing.

The extra close-ups in the scene shared there are of course very Leone-esque. However, it is perhaps even more Leone-esque not to show them (as is the case in the released prints) because Leone loved to tease the audience to build tension - in this case, showing that the father and the son have seen the same concerning thing (i.e. Angel Eyes), but not yet showing us what/who it is.

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2016, 02:45:18 AM »

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"In 2014, MGM released on home video a 4K restoration, sourced from the original camera negative, of the most complete version (to date) of The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly. This cut combines almost all known elements from both versions (the international cut has unique footage not found in the Italian releases)."


Is there any footage on this 2014 release that was not on the Special Edition DVD or the previous BRD released by MGM?

No, it's the same version as the DVD from 2004. Otherwise there would have been at least 1000 pages of discussing this here.

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2016, 02:46:19 AM »

Great post - thanks for sharing.

The extra close-ups in the scene shared there are of course very Leone-esque. However, it is perhaps even more Leone-esque not to show them (as is the case in the released prints) because Leone loved to tease the audience to build tension - in this case, showing that the father and the son have seen the same concerning thing (i.e. Angel Eyes), but not yet showing us what/who it is.

But you see him already before standing in the door, and it is clear at whom both look.

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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2016, 05:40:37 AM »

No, it's the same version as the DVD from 2004. Otherwise there would have been at least 1000 pages of discussing this here.

One difference in the 2014 version is trimmed frames on the second closeup shot of blondies eyes as he loads his gun feverishly when the bandits are about to ambush him. (Just after the shot when they first start to touch the handle on the door) The first extended cut/restoration has a small jump cut in that shot, which is also present on most vintage prints. In the 2014 version Blondie doesn't look down at the end of the shot, in the other versions he does. The shot in its most complete form (still slight jump cut) is actually on the Italian blu Ray. There are minor differences like this in the 2014 version because it was a completely new restoration done by the Italian team, the 2002 version was done by the Americans.

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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2016, 07:06:58 AM »

Thanks Jordan for crediting me with the translation, much appreciated. Good to know that in a very small way, I have contributed somehow to your effort...You know you can count on me any time for translations and other stuff you may need from Italy. Smiley Smiley

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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2016, 09:04:54 AM »

Thanks Jordan for crediting me with the translation, much appreciated. Good to know that in a very small way, I have contributed somehow to your effort...You know you can count on me any time for translations and other stuff you may need from Italy. Smiley Smiley

Your work with the translation and help with obtaining that Italian book was a huge help and much appreciated, of course I'd give the credit where credit is due! Thanks again Len

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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2016, 09:06:06 AM »

I'm looking forward to the follow-up on this:


I'm going to do an entire blog post with references from all the different prints in an attempt to clarify the whole issue over the color timing. Stay tuned...

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2016, 03:55:30 PM »

Amazing. It's amazing what just a few newly discovered frames can do to a man.....!!!!!!!
Why the hell are we all so obsessed with this film?
Don't even try to answer that one!

Thanks for the cut.

What is this "Stanton cut"?

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