Il mio nome è Nessuno aka My Name Is Nobody (1973)

[dave jenkins]

I am sympathetic to your position. Is there anything else you can offer in support? For example, which Leone hallmarks specifically do you observe in the scenes you mention? And is there other external corroboration that you haven't already noted?

[Novecento]

Try watching the Leone directed scene in "Cemetery without Crosses" to see if you can discern a difference between this and the rest done by Hossein. It's a similar kind of thing here, kinda like noticing an artist's distinctive traits in his paintings.

[dave jenkins]

Well, I don't have Cemetery without Crosses. Could you just describe what you're talking about? I don't need an exhaustive list, just a fer instance.

[cigar joe]

Is it the scene around the dinner table with the jar?

[Novecento]

Is it the scene around the dinner table with the jar?

Yup, that's the one. Now was that a guess after watching the movie or did you know already?

Well, I don't have Cemetery without Crosses. Could you just describe what you're talking about? I don't need an exhaustive list, just a fer instance.

I'll get back to you on that when I have time to properly sit down and go through it. It's a bit difficult to pin-point though but I guess it comes down to a question of gracefulness if that makes any sense. In the Simsolo book, Leone says that it was really only in his final trilogy that he properly felt at home with his own style. Although GBU is generally considered the epitome of Leone's output, I would certainly agree with this distinction.

How about the Leone scene in "Genius". Could you tell that one apart?

[cigar joe]

I've never seen Genius. 

[dave jenkins]

Me neither.

[The Firecracker]

Yup, that's the one. Now was that a guess after watching the movie or did you know already?

They should know it as it has been talked about at the CWC thread.
The scene is a good one but it sticks out like sore thumb and slows the movie down.
Hossein was already apeing Leone's style throughout the film so there was no need to have the man himself at the helm of one scene.

How about the Leone scene in "Genius". Could you tell that one apart?

It's the scene that opens the picture, right?
A wonderful scene even if it isn't Leone's.
It used to be up on youtube but I just searched and it was taken down.

[The Firecracker]

Nevermind. Here is the opening to "Genius" but it's in German.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHdBZEVXS-Y&feature=related

[Cusser]

Now I know who invented the Arrow shirt !!!

[Novecento]

They should know it as it has been talked about at the CWC thread.
The scene is a good one but it sticks out like sore thumb and slows the movie down.
Hossein was already apeing Leone's style throughout the film so there was no need to have the man himself at the helm of one scene.

Well Hossein did dedicate the movie to Leone. However, Hossein seems to have his own distinctive style too. The only other Hossein movie I have seen is the Euro-western "The Taste of Violence" (1961) which is very similar, especially in the second half, to CWC. Notably this was made before the SW boom; "Fistful of Dollars" appeared in 1964.

It's the scene that opens the picture, right?
A wonderful scene even if it isn't Leone's.

Why do you question whether it is Leone's?

[Novecento]

Just found some more evidence...

In Frayling's book "Sergio Leone: Once Upon a Time in Italy", as opposed to "Sergio Leone: Something to do with Death", there are the following two photos: Leone with Hill during the Saloon scene which supports what Neil Summers says; Leone with Fonda and Hill during the stand against the Wild Bunch.

Regarding the Barber's Shop scene, note the following remark by Valerii in his interview at http://www.terencehill.it/int_tonval_en.html:

Finally, the first day of shooting the film arrived. Sergio Leone sent me a beautiful telegram, "I'm sure you'll make a beautiful film" And we were off. In the morning, after 5 hours in the car, we got there. Henry Fonda was already made up, and we had made a barber shop with a net: that was thanks to our wonderful set designer. It was really just a ruin, and he didn't do anything very complicated, but took an old fishing net that he found, extended it and it was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen done by a set designer. Otherwise there was nothing, and we added a chair and the other things.

[Groggy]

The picture of Leone and Fonda is in Something to Do With Death too.

[Novecento]

This may have been debated before (I've read the arguments for "Colossus") but how about giving "My Name is Nobody" its own main header on the front page of the web board?

I think a good case could be made.

Or alternatively how about a separate section for films Leone was known to have directed scenes in: "Nobody", "Genius" and "Cemetery Without Crosses"?

[moviesceleton]

Yeah, I think it has been suggested before. It's kinda funny since this sub-board was originally meant for those films, I think. "If it's not list above, this is the spot. Discuss all other Leone related films here." Maybe this could be renamed "Other Western Movies" and a new board called "Other Leone Related Movies" (or something) could be created. But I have no huge problem with the current arrangement.