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« : July 02, 2016, 01:59:39 PM »

Too bad. He was younger than my dad.



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« #1 : July 02, 2016, 02:08:43 PM »

http://variety.com/2016/film/people-news/michael-cimino-dead-dies-deer-hunter-heavens-gate-1201808052/



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« #2 : July 02, 2016, 05:21:10 PM »

His final published interview: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-cimino-full-uncensored-hollywood-778288



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« #3 : July 02, 2016, 06:32:56 PM »

I think The Deer Hunter is a great movie.

Heaven's Gate, I think the first three hours - despite some problems - are vey good, but then the film goes nowhere in the last 40 minutes.


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« #4 : July 02, 2016, 07:41:17 PM »

I really do believe that he had an extraordinary visual talent and should have been able to leave a much bigger impression had circumstances been different. I hope that when he passed he did not feel any frustration for what could have been and just felt satisfaction for what was.

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« #5 : July 02, 2016, 11:32:24 PM »

I could have met him last year in Locarno. But his behavior was a bit strange, so I shied away. He enriched my 2nd favorite decade with THUNDERBOLT & DEER HUNTER, two very unique films. He has his place in history.



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« #6 : July 03, 2016, 01:07:47 AM »

anyone agree with me that Heaven's Gate was not complete shit? It has terrific potential and than falls apart disappointingly, but as a movie itself - forgetting the whole backstory with Cimino's excesses and the studio and the spending, etc. - as a movie itself it has parts that are really good. It may be the prototypical FLOP of all=time, but forgetting all that, there's a lot of good here, and a little of shit too.

In a nutshell, IMO the first 3 hours are (despite some annoying shit) for the most part very good , and then the last 40 minutes disappoints.

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« #7 : July 03, 2016, 01:27:49 AM »

The Deer Hunter was his masterpiece, the film in which he went over his possibilities. The wedding sequence is the best thing he ever made. There he reached a naturalness and implicitness which in fact was beyond his range. After The Deer Hunter it all went down film for film. Heaven's Gate is an uneven film with many impressive scenes, but also with unfinished characters and some rhythmical problems, and Year of the Dragon, his last convincing film, has some similar problems.
I rewatched The Desperate Hours a few years ago, and this is one of those films in which a drinkish eye rolling is unavoidable, mainly because its stupidness is so obviously dispensable.


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« #8 : July 03, 2016, 03:28:17 AM »

anyone agree with me that Heaven's Gate was not complete shit? It has terrific potential and than falls apart disappointingly, but as a movie itself - forgetting the whole backsrory with Cimino's excesses and the studio and the spending, etc. - as a movie itself it has parts that are really good. It may be the prototypical FLOP of all=time, but forgetting all that, there's a lot og good here, and a little of shit too.

In a nutshell, IMO the first 3 hours are (despite some annoying shit) for the most part very good , and then the last 40 minutes disappoints.


I think Heaven's Gate is an absolute masterpiece.

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« #9 : July 04, 2016, 03:08:05 PM »

RIP, one of my favorite filmmakers. For quite a while I considered Deer Hunter to be the best film I'd ever seen. Heavens Gate is fantastic and I just put in the blu. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot among the best of buddy films. Year of the Dragon was great too.

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« #10 : July 04, 2016, 03:59:33 PM »

RIP, one of my favorite filmmakers. For quite a while I considered Deer Hunter to be the best film I'd ever seen. Heavens Gate is fantastic and I just put in the blu. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot among the best of buddy films. Year of the Dragon was great too.

You like the end of Heavens Gate?


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« #11 : July 04, 2016, 05:16:39 PM »

What's wrong with the ending?

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« #12 : July 05, 2016, 06:40:55 AM »

Heaven's Gate still hasn't "clicked" with me. I love many things in it, I also see a lot of flaws (some of which are inherent to this kind of autor epics) but more importantly I think I still haven't "got" what it's really about. It may never come.

Deer Hunter is somewhere between a solid 9 and a small 10/10, depending on my mood.

Year of the Dragon is very good.

Thunderbolt & Lightfoot is good, and even fantastic if you're into Clint's 70's stuff.

I haven't seen much of his other stuff but I also don't think I'm losing much.

You like the end of Heavens Gate?

Mainly, the editing of the battle sequences is utterly disappointing.


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« #13 : July 05, 2016, 08:30:54 AM »

You like the end of Heavens Gate?
I remember being indifferent about it. I know he's on a boat in Rhode Island, but I forget what leads us there (I didn't finish the movie yesterday). Fantastic is an overstatement, but its a solid 8/10 for me, maybe 7.5 at lowest. It's flawed but very very good.

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« #14 : July 05, 2016, 09:47:12 AM »

I remember being indifferent about it. I know he's on a boat in Rhode Island, but I forget what leads us there (I didn't finish the movie yesterday). Fantastic is an overstatement, but its a solid 8/10 for me, maybe 7.5 at lowest. It's flawed but very very good.

I am not referring specifically to that scene. I did not like the last 40 mins. nearly as much as the first 3 hours.


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